Six Flags contests biometric law with Illinois Supreme Court

Posted Monday, November 26, 2018 9:25 AM | Contributed by Jeff

The case centers on the mother of a teenage boy, who brought a suit against Six Flags after her son’s thumbprint was scanned for season pass entry. Lawyers for the family argue that the move violated the law, but the company has said that, since there was no actual harm done by the collection of the print, they aren’t liable.

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Monday, November 26, 2018 9:29 AM

I think the biggest thing about these laws and these kinds of cases is that they probably don't make any technical distinction about what is actually being collected and used. In the case of these fingerprint readers, the result is an algorithmic hash that's literally useless for anything other than comparing it to another scan from the same model of device. If you could get the data, you couldn't do anything with it or reverse engineer it into an actual fingerprint. That's why I'm reasonably at peace with how these things work. The only thing they're good for is comparing your scan to a previous one, which is a valid use case for ticket verification.

Monday, November 26, 2018 11:47 AM

It amuses me how many people still miss-understand what biometrics is, how it works, and that it has nothing to do with an actual fingerprint. Yet many folks believe that they are scanning their fingerprint and it is being stored in some database somewhere attached to their profile or something.

Monday, November 26, 2018 11:51 AM

It's likely on the fine print of the ticket that biometric scanning is a condition of use. I know it was when I worked at Disney. The fake outrage is almost comical. No one is forcing anyone to go to these parks.

Monday, November 26, 2018 11:58 AM

We have been using biometrics at my park for probably close to 10 years now and surprisingly we don't encounter that many situations where a guest becomes outraged over the finger scan. And for the few guests who are difficult, 99% of the time when you explain how it all works, they are fine with it.

Monday, November 26, 2018 12:37 PM

At Disney (this is before the current MyMagic+ system and the barrier free "entry points" - this was when we still had turnstiles) we had a 3-step process. Step 1: use your finger for the biometric scan. Don't have that, we'll go to Step 2 and ask for your photo ID to ensure it matches up with the ticket information. "Forgot" your ID at the hotel, we'll go to Step 3 and have you verify your date of birth, phone number, address, etc to ensure it matches up. (note: this only worked with Annual Pass and multi day ticket media that was tired to a specific person)

What we typically found were that the few outliers who were uncomfortable with the finger scans were more than happy to show photo ID, and even would have it written on their pass to "show ID" much like a credit card. Those that pitched a fit and said we were the FBI spying on them (I could write a book) were also the ones who wouldn't produce photo ID and had a blank stare or responded "I don't know" when asked "what is your date of birth?"

Monday, November 26, 2018 9:49 PM

What a non-issue. I mean, at best, you get a refund for your season pass? What are they trying to accomplish here?

Monday, November 26, 2018 11:40 PM

I have an aunt (by marriage, no relation) who legitimately believes that flu shots are how the government inserts trackers into you.

I recently joined a Chemtrails FB group too, you should see all the crazy shizz these people post. It goes way beyond chemtrails.

So this doesn't really surprise me.

Tuesday, November 27, 2018 3:31 PM

But the Earth is really flat, right?

Last edited by Vater, Tuesday, November 27, 2018 3:32 PM
Tuesday, November 27, 2018 3:35 PM

What ever happened to the forum member that was screaming that all of the RFID technology that parks are using was going to be the end of the world?

Tuesday, November 27, 2018 4:08 PM

He stopped when someone more likely came along.


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