Thursday, October 19, 2006 10:39 AM
I assume by "complying" they mean not doing anything at all.
Kick The Sky
Thursday, October 19, 2006 10:54 AM
So....what here is different from what they are doing now? They already have a dress code and a behavior policy... they just never enforce it. So, are they going to enforce it? Oooh, maybe they will enforce it next year as long as they pulled off the whole "family atmosphere" this year! Maybe a month or two?
This has become Six Flags M.O. for the last few years, even before Shapiro took over. Promise things will be better and the first few weeks or months of the season it is better and then it all just goes to hell in a handbasket.
Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:07 AM
Sounds like something that should have been adopted at the beginning of the season, not the end.
Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:13 AM
KTS, that's a beautiful point. Maybe this means "We plan to enforce it this year!" If so, get the word out to some of the groups that come to SFA that "you might be an OG in your 'hood, but don't dress like it here." Last summer, I saw some shirts that DEFINITELY violated the no drug references policy, but no one said a word. I don't care who wears what, really, but if the park has rules, enforce 'em!
Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:19 AM
Ironic that they do this announcement during Fright Fest, which is not for children at all and at the end of the season for most of the chain.
Also odd that this policy is pretty much the same thing as it has been every year. I wonder though if a.) they will enforce it, or b.) the issue of guest profiling will come up again?
In the end though, I guess it's another example of the brilliant management style to make statements about the parks being family friendly, then not investing in big ticket attractions for the family market.
Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:37 PM
^^^^ KTS....I didn't see your post when I typed this into the forum thread...
Anticipated enforcement levels:
September..."who cares, I am SOOO over this job"...
Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:13 PM
If it's enforced like the new smoking rules, it won't be enforced at all.
Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:55 PM
While it's true that I haven't seen the smoking rules enforced at all, I have noticed a decrease in the amount of smoking in general at the park (aside from designated areas).
Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:18 PM
Of all the things the park should be worried about, they start with the GUEST dress code. And the goal is to help provide a more fun and safer atmosphere?? This is a great goal, and a guest dress code may be a nice thing for a park to have once it's rides are safe. SF (especially Great Adventure) needs to focus on actually making their rides safer. This can be done by training remotely intelligent operators to ensure ride and rider safety and by actually performing proper
maintenance on the rides. Then maybe we can look to the guests to help provide a safer, more fun experience.
SF should take a few lessons from SF Great America - there's one park (minus Deja Vu) that is leaps and bounds and bounds and leaps ahead of any other SF park in terms of a friendly, safe atmosphere.
*** This post was edited by brscoast 10/19/2006 3:21:34 PM ***
Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:48 PM
My guess is they will do it one park at a time. SFNE is the only SF park that enforces the rules that I have been to and since Mark K. is now at SFgradv I guess that park is next to enforce them.
Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:48 PM
The whole issue is the season pass price and the type of clentele that Six Flags attracts. It is too cheap for season passes, therefore the riff-raff and undesirables can afford to buy the "privilage" to hang out day after day. Look at a park like Disney, or Busch Gardens Europe. Their passes are higher, their admission is higher, and they both attract the "family" crowd that SFI is looking for.
No matter what changes are made, I plan on 2006 being the last year that I hold passes, or visit a Six Flags property for a long time. Maybe things will turn around, but as long as the park is run in a corparate fashion it will reak of executive bull*#%. Promise things, make it look like it is changing, but don't really address the larger issues.
Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:50 PM
I guess Six Flags feels they have been out of the news fro too long. This just sounds trumped up to me.Why release this now, at the end of the season? Shouldn't this have been announced back in February? Or early next season?
If they really want the headlines, just wait about a month, when the *real* bombshell drops! ;)
Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:25 PM
There was a Press Release a few days ago that never got posted on Coaster Buzz about Six Flags Season Passes and it stated that the prices were low for season passes so that Families can Afforded to purchase them. Then 2 days latter they say that starting next year they are going to have all these new polices. I believe the idea it to try to prevent the bad people from buying a season pass because they hear about this new policy.
Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:00 PM
I have been very impressed with how well SFKK has enforced the non-smoking policy this year. There are non-smoking signs everywhere and I have seen employees on three occasions this year ask people to put out their cigarettes. I have even seen reminders signs for the employees to remind guests not to smoke. The amount of smoking at that park on MOST days is reduced as a result. The other six flags parks I visited did not enforce that rule at all.
I have NEVER seen any park enforce conduct rules. (One exception is Holiday World where I have seen people turned away because of their obscene t-shirts.) But parks are just too afraid now days to reprimand anyone it seems, perhaps fearing lawsuits. So while this conduct policy is nice in theory, in practice I would be shocked to see it enforced. And policies like this that are not enforced are completely and utterly worthless.
Friday, October 20, 2006 8:33 AM
The problem with this new policy is that they already had it to start with. Also what is Obscene to one isn't to another. Heck, I wear a shirt that says Proud to be a Confederate Southerner with the Confederate flag and the American Flag. To many of you here that is obscene but I am proud to be a southerner. Heck, my home park of Six Flags Over Georgia has the confederate flag flying over it since it was one of the six flags that flew over Georgia at some point in history. Originally, Six Flags flew the Flags that hung over each area park during the region's history.
We have become a nation of being politically correct fools in that we don't want to offend. There's an old saying that rings true today, "Can't please everyone all the time." I believe that this policy shouldn't have been made since they already had the same one in place already.