Even if they raised season pass prices 10-15 dollars above last year's rates, they could still point out that they're cheaper than CF, Hershey, etc. How many people bought a pass for 50 or 60 dollars that wouldn't for 89 or 99? If the answer is "not all that many" then they should be kicking themselves in the asses for leaving 40 bucks on the table per transaction.
If the answer is "a lot," then you should ask whether you really want to fill your parks with bargain hunters. If they won't spend 90 bucks for a pass that lets them come in 3,4 or 50 times a year, how willing will they be to drop 4 dollars on a Pepsi, 15 for parking, and another 15 for lunch?
Even if the reasoning is to get bodies through the gates to show them how much things have improved, it doesn't do much to increase their bottom line. If people are really impressed, what will they do next? Probably bring along 5 friends for free next time. That puts money in the coffers.
RatherGoodBear said:If people are really impressed, what will they do next? Probably bring along 5 friends for free next time. That puts money in the coffers.
Only if they all drive themselves to the park... ;)
But heck, I can remember so many times being at a big park (MM, SFGAm, SFGAd, KI, CP) where I was just so desperate b/c all the lines were so long (and running one train/understaffed to boot).
I've spent entire days at Americana (granted, that was like 1989), Kennywood, HW, Hershey, etc. And never ever had a bad time. Indiana Beach is the bomb! And I don't have alotta money, so it works out good for me anyhow.
I was at Lake Winnie for the first time this summer, we weren't there long. I couldda easily spent a whole day there. They have some Amazing rides!
It seems the approach with the season passes is taking the park more away from a family park, which is where they wanted to be headed. How many families want to go to a park where there is no perceived value? Plus I think people start looking at it as a value park when they see the addmission, then they get inside see $4 drinks and get pissed off since it does not resemble the type of value they perceived when they bought the ticket.
(I know we've gone around and around, but I still believe it can and will eventually happen.)
People talk. I mean, it's almost hard to pay full price going to a Six Flags park.
One of the things that I would think is stopping them from 'free (included) soda' is the fact that lots of the kids they babysit would abuse it. There would be lots of 'pop fights'. At a family park, that isn't much of a problem...
I took advantage of it with the intention of spending two days at GAdv and if I have to, two days at SFA. I agree with many here that those two parks don't offer the best experience IMO but their proximity to me got me to purchase the pass.
How many 'folks' love Hersheypark, Idlewild, Kiddieland, Holidayworld and Indiana Beach?
How many folks love SFGAd, KI, CP (alot!)...
But after those experiences, who's gonna wanna really , truly go back?
target, gap,northface, starbucks... costco... wal mart...
I mean, Wal Mart have even gone back on their values.. offering "partnership insurance." Good lord. I'd rather be strung out on codien.... *** Edited 12/20/2007 6:50:56 AM UTC by J7G3***
MrZero said:
Just wondering, how many in the GP would've known to take advantage of this offer only on the website, on a Sunday? I by chance happened to be looking to buy that day and then came to CB and saw it posted. How many here, who may be more apt to check SF website in the off season would have known if not posted here?
They were advertising it all day on Yahoo.
There are two types of people in the world. People who like coasters and idiots.
www.freewebs.com/alexibrahim (new forums have been added)
People knew about it.
RatherGoodBear said: How many people bought a pass for 50 or 60 dollars that wouldn't for 89 or 99? If the answer is "not all that many" then they should be kicking themselves in the asses for leaving 40 bucks on the table per transaction.If the answer is "a lot," then you should ask whether you really want to fill your parks with bargain hunters. If they won't spend 90 bucks for a pass that lets them come in 3,4 or 50 times a year, how willing will they be to drop 4 dollars on a Pepsi, 15 for parking, and another 15 for lunch?
I wasn't willing to pay full price for the pass based on the end of the season at Great Adventure with the long lines. I figured for $67.xx I can visit twice in the Spring and have it paid off since I only plan to visit in April, May, early June and maybe September (the lines are too long other times of the year).
I am the type of customer SF doesn't want, I plan to stop at WaWa before I enter the park and eat in the car and the only money I plan on spending in the park is in the arcade (they have games I can't find anywhere else). I think I am the exception though since even on a trip to GADV when the park was dead, I saw plenty of people gladly paying $6.49 for a slice of pizza and $9.99 for a sandwich.
I think I am the exception though since even on a trip to GADV when the park was dead, I saw plenty of people gladly paying $6.49 for a slice of pizza and $9.99 for a sandwich.
Exactly.
Didn't know about their other sources for advertising the sale, that should've certainly heightened awareness and surely purchases. *** Edited 12/21/2007 7:09:36 PM UTC by MrZero***
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MrZero said:
Just wondering, how many in the GP would've known to take advantage of this offer only on the website, on a Sunday? I by chance happened to be looking to buy that day and then came to CB and saw it posted. How many here, who may be more apt to check SF website in the off season would have known if not posted here?I took advantage of it with the intention of spending two days at GAdv and if I have to, two days at SFA. I agree with many here that those two parks don't offer the best experience IMO but their proximity to me got me to purchase the pass.
They were advertising it a lot of the day on yahoo. So, it's not only enthusiasts that could have got a great deal.
This is just another stupid Shapiro thing. He said they would rise season pass prices. Than, why are they the same as last year? This one deal was just so stupid for a bleeding corporation. It would be different if season pass prices were $120, and they would lower them for a day to $70, but that's not what's happening. Season pass prices NEED to be higher. Have people given up on this guy yet, or not? I've given up on him a long time ago.
The brand is a thrilling amusement park corporation. He wants to change it the other way. The park needs more thrilling flats because I don't think they have enough. People enjoy roller coasters, but they need more rides to go on other than roller coasters, and the flats at most Six Flags are lacking. They were on the right track with SFGAdv, but than they just gave up because they bought the wrong rides.
Have people given up on this guy yet, or not? I've given up on him a long time ago.
Not even close. This is the only thing I think they're still missing the mark (pun intended) on.
Other than the stupid pass pricing, I think they're doing just about everything right.
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