silverstar video

Saturday, September 13, 2003 2:12 AM
Ok, I know it's not a new coaster anymore, but Europapark has put up the large POV of their B&M hyper.
It's here
http://www.europapark.de/files/upload/desktop/silverstar-fahrt.mpg

The shaking of the camera might be due to the ominous "vibrations" of newer B&Ms?
*** This post was edited by superman 9/15/2003 3:13:58 AM ***

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Saturday, September 13, 2003 3:33 AM
Thanks for the link.

There seemed to be a lot of camera shaking. When I rode it last year, there were some pronounced vibrations on the turn into the second hill, but it wasn't uncomfortable, nor did it detract from the ride.

Does the amount of shaking mean that Silverstar's vibrations are getting worse, or is it just the camera reacting to the usual dynamics of the ride.

Silverstar is an odd ride. I quite enjoyed it, mainly because it's a hyper and I have only ridden a few (Goliath, Big One, Silverstar, Ge-Force I think), and whilst it wasn't that memorable, it was a pretty neat ride.

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Saturday, September 13, 2003 3:33 AM
This must have been shot at opening day. Apart from the journalists on the lifthill you can see that the train is hardly braked in the midcourse. This was changed soon after. Sitting in the first car offers now some stupid hangtime into the drop.

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Saturday, September 13, 2003 4:44 AM
Oh yes, I forgot to mention that the mid-course brakes didn't look too bad. The drop off of them looks excellent, but of course you creep off them to the point that even back-seat riders will miss out on the airtime.

The trims aren't too terrible, but the mid-course is, plus there's the fact that I found the airtime very subtle - it's there, but you don't really realise as you gently float out from your seat as opposed to being thrown skywards whilst the train dissapears beneath you.

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Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:37 AM
Another new Beemer with the *vibration*?

While I woudl origianlly think it had to be a problem with track production here in the US, this just goes to show that it's not that as the track for Silverstar is made by Gionvola.

It must be the trains, but none of the earlier Beemers have did this. BKF seems to be the first to exhibit this.

What has B&M changed?

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Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:51 AM
Whoa...it has magnetic brakes.

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Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:57 AM
SFNE Freak - surprised you could tell from the video! Well, it has 'fins' attached horizontally to the normal brake 'fin' on the bottom of the train. All the brakes on the ride are normal brakes apart from the final brakes which has about two lengths of fixed magnetic brakes before you go into conventional brakes.

It's funny that the ride smoothly slows at the end and you're thinking "ahh, smoothly does it" before cha-cha-cha - you jerk to a halt thanks to the normal brakes.

I guess this is just to take some speed off the train so that they don't have to keep replacing brake 'shoes'.

Magnum Force - yes, although this has been discussed somewhere else, another B&M with vibrations. Nemesis Inferno has a couple of very minor vibrations, too.

Not sure why it is - don't think anybody does really.

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Saturday, September 13, 2003 4:15 PM
I don't remember the vibration on Silver Star but I do feel it on every floorless with the exception of Medusa SFGADv.

SFNE Freak,

I don't know if you have ridden Nitro or not but it also uses magnetic braking.

-Sean

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Saturday, September 13, 2003 4:38 PM
My Medusa (W) sure as hell doesn't vibrate! In fact, it remains the most smooth B&M looper I have been on. :)

Silver star looks very interesting. Why would they put mechanical trims on when it has magnet brakes? Seems like that would make more sense...

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Saturday, September 13, 2003 5:24 PM
Parker,

My bad. I forgot about Medusa West as well as Krypton and Kraken (duh). Both of those didn't have that shaking either. I have felt that strange vibration on Both Batmen and Scream though.

I think the reason B&M went with magnetic trims instead of full braking is they love to have total control of the train at all times. The normal trim brakes on the course can be adjusted depending on the speed of the train. Magnetic braking is used only to slow the train and can't be used to stop a train to a complete stop, nor can they be adjusted per train.....well, at least for now. You never know what we may see in the future. =:^)

-Sean

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Saturday, September 13, 2003 6:12 PM
I feel special.
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Sunday, September 14, 2003 3:28 AM

Sean Flaharty said:


Magnetic braking is used only to slow the train and can't be used to stop a train to a complete stop, nor can they be adjusted per train.....well, at least for now. You never know what we may see in the future. =:^)

-Sean


Sean, the future is here!

BALDER, the new Intamin woodie is capable of this stunt. Intamin use a new form of magnetic brakes which are "retractable". The brakes sink down or rise up inches, reacting to the actual speed the train has while entering the brakes. This happens in a second brake run. The first set of brakes work as usual, after a turn the train enters those tricky brakes.

It is all explained in the link i posted a few days ago, but it was all written in german. (someone posted a babelfish translation, but i guess the outcome is still pretty unreadable;))


(the thread was called "Balder than the rest)
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Sunday, September 14, 2003 5:49 AM
How does silverstar compare to Nitro? They look similar so I would assume a similar ride experience.

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Sunday, September 14, 2003 6:37 AM

tricktrack said:
Sean, the future is here!

BALDER, the new Intamin woodie is capable of this stunt. Intamin use a new form of magnetic brakes which are "retractable".


I must have missed that part of the thread. That's pretty cool sounding. Thanks for explaining.

-Sean

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Sunday, September 14, 2003 9:17 AM

DorneyDante said:
How does silverstar compare to Nitro? They look similar so I would assume a similar ride experience.

I prefer Nitro for the following reasons:

The banking ontop of the second hill which leads into the drop is a real great element and a good shock if you sit on the left side. The same applies to the drop which leads into the helix.

Silverbrake has no such gimmicks. Instead it has this rather unsatisfying, curving rise after the first drop. It is here where the vibrations really hit you.

I thought that the hammerhead was much taller on Nitro, but Sista is taking it with good speed.

The blockbrake comes too early and hits too hard, so that the already not-so-great-helix is quite boring. What i do like on Sista is the drop out of the helix, which is very nice. Sadly the succession of bunny hops is missing on Sista, but it has the quick s-curve at the end, which is only good when you sit on the front left. Here, yor seat will suddenly pull out from underneath you. On my first ride this gave me more "butterflies" than the enormous first deop (which levels too early for my taste).

All in all I was a little disappointed by Silverstar. It just doesn´thave the flow i like.

Nitro is better, but still i prefer Raging Bull over the two.

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