Silver Star begins to rise at Europa Park

Posted Tuesday, October 2, 2001 4:00 AM | Contributed by ColumbusCoaster

The first supports have gone up and track has arrived for Europa Park's new B&M hypercoaster. When completed, Silver Star will be the tallest steel coaster in Europe.

Show me the photos!

They also have video, but good luck getting it to play as it's an AVI with some odd codec.

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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 4:09 AM
The video worked fine for me...
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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 4:23 AM
If you cant get the video working go to www.divx.com and download Divx 4.0 and it will work fine
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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 4:39 AM
Jeff's avatar That's bad... you should never post video that isn't platform neutral or that requires people to download something. Poor design choice.

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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 5:08 AM
I didn't need to d/l anything more than the vid, or maybe i allready had the codec...
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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 5:37 AM
Wow, for a promotional video about Silver Star, there was an awful lot of footage of Pepsi Max: the Big One.  It still looked pretty good.  I enjoyed seeing clips of the Silver Star animation.

One thing confuses me, though...  The animation displays a first drop similar to Nitro.  But the drawings display a very oddly-designed dip and straightaway before the first drop, with bizarre supports.  I wonder which style will end up in the finished product.

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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 6:01 AM
Ok, Silverstar layout -> going out from station, turn 90', a pretty steep lifthill (steeper than Nitro), a steep drop, turning into the 2nd hill 90', after the 2nd hill comes the 3rd hill (duh), a hammerhead turn, then a 4th hill, the brakerun, drop into the upward helix, drop, 6th hill, 90' turn into the brakerun and slowly going into the station after the 180' turn... pretty much of it...
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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 7:04 AM
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/BLOCKQUOTE>DVix is the NEW video standard that is open source, that has the ability to compress video at near DVD quality for less than MGP2 space.  DVix is MPG4, which, if you have digital cable, you will find that is what they use on the digital channels.  It was an excellent design choice.  Can't blame the designers for using the hottest new technologies.
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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 7:14 AM
Jeff's avatar Yes, you can blame them. I know what the standard is, and it isn't bad. What is bad is using a codec that few people have, and a platform (AVI) that's not platform neutral. Free doesn't mean "excellent choice." And that's not even addressing the point that it isn't streaming.

The standard of standards is QuickTime with the Sorenson codec if you're looking for the best quality for the file size. See any movie trailer published in the last three or four years for hundreds of examples.

Trust me... I get paid a lot of money to encode video.

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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 11:46 AM
God forbid we would nitpick something that a guy is putting out for free...

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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 11:56 AM
Jeff's avatar No... this is a marketing piece. If you were German, would it make sense to send you a brochure in Chinese? This is the same kind of thing.

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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 12:10 PM
If it was in Chinese, that would make sense. Besides, you can't please everybody. What if somebody didn't have quicktime? They'd have to go download it. What's the difference then?

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Joshua Wilcox
"We have awakened a sleeping giant and have instilled in him a terrible resolve"
- Japanese Admiral Yamamoto after sneak attack on Pearl Harbor

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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 12:13 PM
Quicktime is msot definitely not platform neutral.

The Unix crowd constantly complains that Apple refuses to port Sorenson Quicktime. Mpeg is the de facto full-platform format, although AVI is pretty mass-readable.

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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 12:25 PM
Jeff's avatar The usability studies I've been involved with indicate otherwise. 99.99% of the people out there use a Mac (QT already installed) or a Windows machine (89% QT installed). Because QT ships with Sorenson on those platforms, they're good to go.

If people are using UNIX machines to view QT, that's people just being stubborn. It's not logical.

Getting AVI's to run on a Mac is a nightmare, even though QT and WM should support it. The problem is that codec management with AVI's is a nightmare. No two machines have the same codecs.

MPEG sucks for streaming unless you've got the bandwidth to do it. It's big and not as efficient as a variable-bitrate stream used by QT.

I stand by my case... QT is the best bet for video delivery, period.

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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 12:59 PM
I agree wholeheartedly about MPEG. And I might even agree with you about Quicktime being the best. However, I've always noticed that if I'm lacking a codec for AVI's, it automatically downloads the required file. I've had endless trouble with Quicktime not having the proper decompressor, correct sound, etc. Now, I admit that my experience in the issue is not professional, as yours is, but coming from a user who does watch a lot of video from the internet, AVI's aren't lacking enough to call them "bad" and "a poor design choice."

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Joshua Wilcox
"We have awakened a sleeping giant and have instilled in him a terrible resolve"
- Japanese Admiral Yamamoto after sneak attack on Pearl Harbor

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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 2:31 PM
Jeff's avatar That is the one down side of QT, in that too many developers latch on to some special codec bundled with their capture hardware or some software packages. They don't know any better to go with what is included in every QT installation.

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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 3:37 PM
Vertical construction is coming along nicely. It looks like they are building the storage building for the trains. It looks like it because there are supports near it, so that must be the track. The first photo can show my opinion.

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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 3:40 PM
Is there a layout anywhere, i'd like to see it. Thanks
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Tuesday, October 2, 2001 4:33 PM
Hehe, an arguement about platform neutrality. Anyway, the layout from what someone said earlier sounds nice, but I'd like to see plans. As for the name, I like it! It reminds me of one of my favorite RPG's for Playstation. Hehe.
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Wednesday, October 3, 2001 3:06 AM
Neil, try here.
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