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Saturday, November 6, 2004 11:47 AM
Arrow/S&S? sounds like another TA2K to me.
With all the things I've heard of this ride I could've sworn I read somewhere that it'd be yet another Intamin rocket coaster.
Saturday, November 6, 2004 12:46 PM
How can they say it's almost a mile long? They're 2000' short.
Saturday, November 6, 2004 3:38 PM
Odd.....COmbining S&S with Buzzsaw? OK.....
Saturday, November 6, 2004 4:10 PM
Funny how times have changed that a 110 ft. drop is considered a family coaster.
Saturday, November 6, 2004 4:13 PM
Arrow added a whole new outdoor section to Intamin's all-indoor Lightning Bolt at the defunt MGM Grand Adventures in Las Vegas. Morgan kept part of Steel Phantom and made Phantom's Revenge. Heck, Kennywood kept parts of their Pippin woodie and made Thunderbolt.
S&S using parts of Premier's Buzzsaw Falls for Powder Kep hardly sets a precendent.
Saturday, November 6, 2004 4:50 PM
Actually the animated video track looks a lot like Intamin. Kind of weird.
Saturday, November 6, 2004 5:36 PM
There's one thing that's wrong with the animation. The train will go alot more backwards before the launch...
Saturday, November 6, 2004 6:18 PM
Looks fun enough. Silver Dollar City, and Dollywood seem to be getting the most out of their money lately.
Saturday, November 6, 2004 8:26 PM
Buzzsaw Falls track looked very similar to Intamin track. The same looking track will be used for Italian Job next year as we well.
The S&S/Arrow track for the rest of PK looks a lot different than the older Premier portion of the ride. Also, from the animation it looked like the coaster might have a Mr.Freeze-ish transfer launch track. I just thought this seemed strange for a continuous track coaster.
Did anyone else want to turn their speakers down as soon as heard the announcer? =:^)
-Sean*** This post was edited by Sean Flaharty 11/6/2004 8:35:13 PM ***
Saturday, November 6, 2004 10:37 PM
The track looks like California Screamin's Track...
Sunday, November 7, 2004 5:20 AM
Yes, Sean, it was rather obnoxiously loud. Arrow has actually used this type of track before (though I don't think they used it on an actual coaster) when they were testing their suspended coasters. Its weird to watch the movie and see the car go over Arrow style and then Intamin(well, schwarzkopf) style track, then back to Arrow.
Sunday, November 7, 2004 3:09 PM
What I'm wondering is what method S&S is using to SLOW the launch down. H:XLC (and I understand Dodonpa as well) gets up to speed *immediately*, with a quicker PUSH than even the Intamins....
Is this going to be like a *two-stage* launch, or what? Seems weird considering that the g-forces on even the MOST intense launches are WELL below anything uncomfortable....why so *gradual* a launch on P-Keg?
Sunday, November 7, 2004 5:02 PM
I think they are going for more of a family ride here, and while those other rides may not be "uncomfortable" in their launches, they are aimed more toward a thrill seaking audience than that of a family.
Sunday, November 7, 2004 10:51 PM
Well this is the "next generation" of TA2Ks. The ride will have two different launches, the first one will blast you up a grade and then into the first section of the ride. The second one will be after the MCBR and will go up the old BSF lift hill. The layout from First Drop is correct. http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/new/powderkeg/artist.jpg
Monday, November 8, 2004 6:24 AM
I have a feeling that if this coaster does good, we may see more TA2Ks in the future. Everyone is jumping on the bandwagon because, to date, S&S/Arrow haven't done anything that interesting with the layouts, making them essentially one trick ponies with a vertical hill. This looks completely radical in relation to the other 2, and I hope that the Kinks get worked out, and we start seeing more of these, even if they end up being 'family launch coasters'.
That, and another 4D(but I'm not counting on that one for some time...)
Tuesday, November 9, 2004 10:19 AM
seems the trend with launched coasters (at least being announced) are focusing more on the family, or not so thrill market (This, Rita, and Canonen)