Should Walt Disney World Upgrade?

Monday, January 22, 2007 1:00 PM
Everyone always says that Walt Disney World is the best place to go because it's wonderful atmosphere. I have noticed some rides that are declining at this magically place. So, should they be replaced or not?

They include the Carousel of Progress is hardly ever open except when it's packed, the Brain Pavillion (I forgot the name) at EPCOT, Mission Space because of sagging attendance, Figment for the same reason, that Drew Carrey show which is gone at MGM, and Star Tours which also has saggy attendance.

If these rides are walk on, or not open anymore, why not replace them?

Monday, January 22, 2007 1:04 PM
Lack of a line doesn't mean a ride is doomed or should be replaced.
Monday, January 22, 2007 1:16 PM
Some of these rides have a lack of line because of massive capacity. Unless there is something compelling to be put in place of most of these attractions, I'm not sure what the point would be. Without the second and third tier rides at Disney lines would be even longer than they are now. *** Edited 1/22/2007 6:17:41 PM UTC by matt.***
Monday, January 22, 2007 1:26 PM
When I was at disney carasouel of progress was open and really popular.

It does have awesome capacity and just because there is no line doesnt mean it is not popular.

Also i constantly saw people on figment when I was at disney also.

Monday, January 22, 2007 2:49 PM
Wonders of Life needs to go. Body Wars, Cranium Command and The Making of Me are working but the rest of the pavillion is in horrible shape with stuff broken and/or closed. It's not popular either when it is open, there was a total of 5 people in line at Body Wars when I went and then later in the week when Test Track and Mission Space had 2+ hour waits, Body Wars was only 20 minutes.

Since the green team less intense side of Mission Space was added the ride has gotten a lot more popular and has much longer lines than it used to, at least when I have been there. 2 years ago during Chrsitmas week, it was around 60 minutes, this year it was 140 minutes. Though I wouldn't mind seeing Mission Space gone and Horizons built again (I know it will never happen)

I would be very upset if Carousel of Progress was closed. It's a great show and is popular when open. Plus, knowing what would probably replace it (something Pixar probably) is reason enough for me to want it to stay. *** Edited 1/22/2007 7:50:53 PM UTC by YoshiFan***

Monday, January 22, 2007 2:56 PM
I've said it before, so I'll say it again. I give WDW a C right now for resort wide shape. Many things are in disrepair, need updating, etc., and even some new things are LAME.

DL get's a solid B+ since 2005....I'd currently rather go there and spend 3-4 days thana week at WDW.

But, Tokyo Disney Resort gets an A+, and really makes theAmerican ones look like pure crap by comparison. I know everyone who goes always says it, but it's true on a park by park level and an attraction by attraction level.

I can't speak of Paris since I've never been there, but it's soewhere between WDW and DL in terms of shape as far as I've heard recently.

But, don't get rid of Carousel of Progress...that's a classic show (in need of a little TLC) that is fairly popular. But, for the love of god fix the awful Figment ride and bring it back to it's former glory. (Can we get Alien Encounter back too? :) )

Monday, January 22, 2007 3:08 PM
I don't know if its just me, but I liked the older/retro attractions at Disneyworld more then some of the new "updated" ones. Universe of Energy, Spaceship Earth, Wonders Of Life. I really loved the retro feel of these attractions, just like I really wish I could visit Horizons... :(
Monday, January 22, 2007 3:34 PM
I like Universe of Energy and Spaceship Earth tons and tons.

The problem with Wonders of Life is that it's just redundant at this point. There's absolutely no way to do everything at EPCOT even when it's open, and it's not like it's because of long lines.

Monday, January 22, 2007 4:32 PM
Not really...I went in a July back when it was open and did every attraction in the park in one day, including the world showcase films. The only thing we didn't do was go in some of the World Showcase shops.

Not to say that Wonders of Life isn't very out of date, of course :)

Monday, January 22, 2007 4:49 PM
Looking at my unofficial guide here, you did -

Spaceship Earth
Everything at the Seas Pavilion
Everything at the Land Pavilion
Everything at the Imagination Pavilion
Test Track
Mission Space
Universe of Energy
El Rio Del Tiempo
The American Adventure
and every world showcase film?

You, Peabs, are my hero. And I should have added the qualifier "the average joe" could never do it all in one day. Of course I don't have numbers but I bet the average guest doesn't even do half in a day.

Monday, January 22, 2007 4:55 PM
I didn't care for Universe of Energy, but I remember Horizons being my favorite outside of Spaceship Earth. Sa to see that one replaced.

I kind of wish they could have left MK and EPCOT alone (well fix it up still) and put all of the new stuff in a new park. I haven't been there in almost 11 years and am really looking forward to visiting in a few weeks, but a little worried about the changes and state of disrepair. Should make for an interesting trip.

Monday, January 22, 2007 5:04 PM

And I should have added the qualifier "the average joe" could never do it all in one day. Of course I don't have numbers but I bet the average guest doesn't even do half in a day.

EPCOT: Every Person Comes Out Tired. ;)

AV: It's not what it could be, but it's still pretty darn good.
*** Edited 1/22/2007 10:05:18 PM UTC by Brian Noble***

Monday, January 22, 2007 5:40 PM

Acoustic Viscosity said:
I haven't been there in almost 11 years and am really looking forward to visiting in a few weeks, but a little worried about the changes and state of disrepair. Should make for an interesting trip.

My first and only trip as an adult was a couple years ago and I had a blast. I had a somewhat miserable time at AK but that was more my fault than the parks, but everything else was still pretty stellar.

Disneyland still ownz all, tho.

Monday, January 22, 2007 8:36 PM
Yeah, I prefered Disneyland to the MK even back when I went on an annual trip to Florida with my family for a few years ('93-'96). But Disney World for me was always about the whole resort experience, not just the parks. We used to stay at the Poly every year. Fond memories.
Monday, January 22, 2007 10:24 PM
matt.: with so many of those attractions being people eaters it really wasn't difficult. We even showed up at 1pm, and had a sit down dinner at the COral Reef!

There were several things (Making of Me, Circle of Life), that were not my cup of tea and could have done without. But, for the record, Test Track was not yet open, and we didn't stay and play in incidental things like Visionworks and Innoventions. I do agree with you that most people probably only do 50-75% of what's really there in a day. *** Edited 1/23/2007 3:27:26 AM UTC by Peabody***

Monday, January 22, 2007 11:06 PM
Please. like it is hard to do everything (and see some of the live shows on top of that) in EPCOT in one day. Of course when you go there often enough you learn strategy and know when to Fast Pass and when to, well just Pass.


Tuesday, January 23, 2007 10:25 PM
If you're trying to do everything in Epcot in one day, I think you might be missing the point of Epcot.

I don't believe that WDW can truly be done in less than 8 days-and even that's pushing it. MK and Epcot deserve two days each, MGM deserves 1 and 1/2, and AK probably deserves 1 and 1/2 now, as well, with the recent addition of Expedition Everest. That really only leaves you one day for something else.

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 10:44 PM
I agree that MK and Epcot are 2 day parks but I find it difficult to spend an entire day at AK without re-rides. There just doesn't seem like there are that many attractions there.
Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:31 PM
How can you spend 2 days at EPCOT? I don't get what you like so much. I can spend 2-3 days at Magic Kingdom, 1 day at EPCOT, 1-2 at Animal Kingdom (Dinosaur rerides!! Of course, they are more like half a days.), and 1 day at MGM.
Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:56 PM
It is a known fact that Disneyland has been getting a lot more love than it's Florida counterpart for years. They are getting a MUCH better Nemo in Cali. Many of the Cali rides have been getting better upgrades and constant maintenance.

Orlando seems to be either spending their budgets on the resort hotels or on god knows what. They promoted the HR director to be the president of the park, someone who doesnt know jack about park operations. They are not maintaining the parks. THere is chipped paint all over and broken props on just about every attraction. It is where Disneyland was about 5-10 years ago.

As for Wonders of Life, it is gone. They opened it for awhile during the holidays to help ease the crowds but popular scuttlebutt is that it is never going to open again.

As for spending 2 days at Epcot, it is easy, especially when you do rerides on Test Track, Mission Space, and especially soarin (although Cali's queue theming is better ;) )


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