One possibility of this using Cedar Point as an example might be:
Regular admission $35 -- This includes all rides except MF, TTD, Raptor, and Maverick. Premium admission --$50 includes all of these coasters. Individual rides on each of the designated coasters are $5 for those not buying the premium admission.
You pop when you pay to get in the park.
Once upon a time, there was a general admission fee to a park and tickets for individual rides. Disney's Space Mountain was an 'E' ticket. A buggy ride down Main Street was an 'A' ticket. And then there were attractions rated somewhere in between.
Pay One Price (POP) got everybody to shell out for the rides, not just those who chose to climb aboard.
Move along, move along. Nothing to see here.
Then we get the 20+page threads on the evils of VIPs and Qbots. So.... ;)
Honestly, the only reason a "regular coaster" should have to be an upcharge is if there's REALLY horrible capacity. Then the extra fee actually becomes a way to reduce DEMAND for the ride...
Eventually, as everything old DOES indeed become new again, we'll go all the way back to pay-per-ride... :)
*** Edited 3/29/2007 1:49:36 PM UTC by rollergator***
Unless, of course, you get the VIP season pass at my local CF park for $40 extra...
Where this might work is with a relatively small park that wants to add a hypercoaster, an inverted coaster or some other costly ride. This way they can draw in a new type of visitor without pricing out the current visitors who like the current pricing and offerings. *** Edited 3/29/2007 2:19:15 PM UTC by Arthur Bahl***
If you're going to ride it anyway, then you will pay the additional fee that they'll be charging for the "POP". The queue lines would make little to no difference. I don't think there's too many people out there going:
"Hmm... all these rides are included in the price? Well hot diggity dog! I'm going to get in line for the biggest & best... even though I fear heights... and speed...".
Just my thought.
Six Flags probably did more than anyone to popularize the POP pricing plan. When SFOT opened back in the 1960s, admission was $4.95 and that included the rides and shows. Other parks followed this plan such as SFOG, KI, CP, WOF, (SF)AW, and (SF)MM. Other smaller parks used POP as promotions on off-peak days to generate business.
Eventually the two major holdouts, Disney and Knotts, switched to this system. Many of the traditional parks such as DP and KW have also switched and almost all of those that didn't do offer it as an option.
What goes around comes around. The park chain that was responsible for making POP the usual way of doing business in amusement parks is now the chain that is promoting pay queue systems most aggressively. *** Edited 3/29/2007 3:12:36 PM UTC by Arthur Bahl***
Just a thought...
Why is it okay for Knoebels to do it, and not for other (bigger) parks? Just curious...
I don't think anyone can argue that Knoebels operates in a market that is different than most. And let's not forget that admission to Knoebels is free- someone is free to go there and just sit around and do nothing while other people in the family ride everything.
First of all, I think different POP price plans at a theme park would confuse people. I can see it now... people arguing with the person running the line that they had no idea this particular coaster wasn't included in their admission. Second, is a theme park going to let someone get into the park paying half price when they can get them to pay full price? I doubt it.
Fifty dollars to enter the park for the whole day. This is just how I see it.
I travel to Cedar Point, and spend the entire day ridding coasters. Mellenium line-up, TTD line up, Maverick line up, raptor, wicked twister, mantis, meanstreak. I think this list is going to take up the better part of my day on a busy saturday. I "DO NOT" get pleasure of visiting Cedar Point on a regular basis because of my Job and the distance. So when I do get the chance to visit, you can bet your left testicular body part thzat my time at the park is going towards coasters and nothing else. Now, ask me if there should be additional pricing in place for guests wanting to ride certain coasters.
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