(SFWoA ) or (PKI & LL)? Which to choose?

Monday, July 15, 2002 5:03 AM

The wife and I are planning a small extended weekend getaway in August. We are planning on visiting either SFWoA or PKI with a small side day trip to LeSourdsville Lake. We have been debating where to go, since both major parks are the same distance from us, and we have never been to either of them.

We just wanted to get some feedback from anyone who cares to comment on which you would choose, and why.

Thanks for taking the time to read and reply!

Mick and Tracy

BTW, we have no kids, are 30-somethings, and are more into an overall good quality experience more than this park has coaster A vs. coaster B. :-)

*** This post was edited by Gruelurks on 7/15/2002. ***

Monday, July 15, 2002 5:32 AM

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Monday, July 15, 2002 6:02 AM
PKI and LL.


Monday, July 15, 2002 6:32 AM
For someone who hasn't been to SFWOA, I would have to say.. PKI!!!!! (duh) ;)

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Monday, July 15, 2002 7:06 AM

I guess everyone "definitely" forgot to read the "why" part of the question.

As a Columbus native, I've made several trips to both parks, and I'd say that both parks have high points. If you have children, without question PKI is the better choice. They have 4 junior coasters and the park is just overall kid-friendly. As far as coasters go, Flight of Fear gets the nod for most-improved coaster, and if you've never been on an Invertigo, Face/Off is a great, if low capacity, ride. Obviously The Beast is a sentimental favorite, and Son of Beast has been running better this year. Drop Zone is the best drop ride in Ohio, IMHO.

SFWoA has some of the best coasters in the state, and their operations are definitely improving. X-Flight is a very unique experience, S:UE is another unique coaster (although less so now, since its big brother lives right down the street), and I think Villain is the best woodie in the state (sacrilege!). Batman: Knight Flight may also be the best steel in the state, depending on whom you ask-it's definitely the best B&M.

Overall, I think WoA has the better coasters, but PKI offers the better experience. If you are just looking for thrills, head up to WoA. If you want a great overall day, go to PKI.

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Monday, July 15, 2002 9:01 AM
Since you did mention LL, Screechin' Eagle is now IMO the best wooden coaster in Ohio and should be billed as a stand-up coaster if you know what I mean. Serpent is also a fun little Galaxi coaster that's worth a few rides as well and I'm a big fan of compact layouts with headchoppers, etc.

So, I recommend the PKI/LL trip. I don't think you'll find any total duds with the coasters like you might with Mind Eraser(I personally like boomerangs, but some don't), Serial Thriller, and Wolf Bobs at SFWoA(and possibly a closed Double Loop). The operations at SFWoA were pretty decent last time and I wouldn't mind making a second trip this year after Double Loop reopens and if the capacity thing is true, but you'll probably have the better experience at PKI/LL.

Monday, July 15, 2002 9:13 AM
Yea, I would have to say PKI and LL. If you like B&M's SFWOA is the place for them. PKI will give you a good overall experience. I haven't been to LL this year, but I heard Screechin' Eagle is amazing and it was 2 years back when I rode it. Serpent is decent too. I think all of PKI's coasters are good except Taxi Jam and Scooby's Ghoster Coaster. You wouldn't be able to ride those anyways. I would definitely choose PKI and LL if I were you, rides are always run at capacity unlike SFWOA and all the coasters and rides are generally open (spare TR:TR which is having a fit as usual) Also, if you go to PKI on a Wednesday and stay open to close you will get on every ride you want easily and you can hit Lesourdsville Lake on Thursday! Have fun where ever you go.

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Monday, July 15, 2002 9:20 AM

SFWoA trip!

I went to PKI and hated it. Bad rides, but it did have a good atmosphere. Vortex sucked, Beast was ok, Top Gun rocked, King Cobra was cool (RIP), SOB was very awesome, and FOF was cool, but I liked Jokers Jinx better at SFA ;)

None of the rides at PKI are mindblowing. Except SOB. But go to WoA!

First, they got awesome rides!

SUE - Its an intense ride, very unique, and very fun!

XFlight - Also very unique, extremely intense, and is very fun also.

Villain - One of the best wooden coasters Ive rode. Even though its low on my woodie list ;)

1.Pheonix 2.Lightning Racer (thunder) 3.Wildcat 4.LR (lightning) 5.Twister 6. SOB and Villain tied.

BKF - The best ride at SFWoA... It blows Medusa out of the water. The speed is what makes this ride soooo good. None-stop break neak pacing, and those turns are to die for. The loop is immense, and the ending is just INTENSE. Non-stop G's throughout the ride.

Big Dipper - Nice old time wooden coaster. Nice airtime, but can be rough if you dont ride up front.

Serial Thriller - Smoother then ever, those new head pads work wonders ;)

Plus, you have the WHOLE Wildlife side! Go see Shouka, Dolphines, or the Seal Lions, just to relax from the rides :) You can also go see the shows, or ride some of the new flats at the park.

And no, SFWoA is not my fav park, so dont think just because my name has SFWoA in it you think im one of those people who will just try to sucker you into going to there home park ;) Personally, Hershey is the best park ever. Followed probley by Dorney and SFGAdv, then SFWoA and CP.

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Monday, July 15, 2002 9:28 AM
Steve, are you going to put up things about the Wild Life and Wild Rides side at your site any time soon? I was just wondering when to check back since some people seem to be too busy to even update their sites any more after awhile. No offense Will. =^P
Monday, July 15, 2002 9:41 AM

If you're going with quality experience I would recommend the PKI and LL trip.

LeSourdesville Lake really isn't quality or quantity in my opinion. Just be prepared to spend a few hours there. The park is just beginning to get things open, but there's not alot to do. I understand that you are more into quality so I will not get into specifics of coasters. Nor will I compare coaster A with coaster B, since I do not know what you've been on.

King's Island has lots to do, they have a nice collection of coasters, flat rides, and other attractions. You can get a beautiful view of the park from Eiffel Tower. Another thing they stress on is capacity. My visits to the park have seen two train op alot of the big rides, and even three train op on the Beast and Vortex. This really improves the quality of your experieince since you don't have to stand in line for a long time, like my past experiences at Six Flags.

I'm not saying Six Flags is a bad park, in fact I think they are doing much better compared to previous years. Re-rides on Villain at night definately make up for that. However, I feel that you'll have a more quality time at PKI and LL. Not only are there several rides closed at Six Flags, but they also cut their operating hours, and charge you the same admission price. Also alot of the attractions on WildLife side were not open.

Good luck on the trip!

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Beatings from Kara: 13

Monday, July 15, 2002 10:59 AM

what you will get


better for wood coasters, beast, racer, SOB (which can be pretty rough) and beastie. Beast is great, SOB can be if not rough, Racer is good.

steel coasters: flight of fear, top gun, vortex, face off, mine train, 3 kiddie coasters. Flight of fear is outstanding, Top gun is great, but short.

flat ride selection: new themed top spin, flying eagles (which is excellent), bumper cars, troika, monster, scrambler, pirate, carrousel, wave swinger.

Strong water park, strong kiddie ride section. Very few if any viewing attractions such as six flags wild life side. Entrance is nice, all other theming has been ripped apart.

At six flags you will get:

Wood: Villain (excellent), Raging Wolf Bobs (very rough), Big Dipper

Steel: Knight Flight (excellent), Superman (excellent), Mind Eraser (rough), Serial Thriller (rough), Roadrunner, X Flight, double loop.

Flat rides, enterprise, rainbow, inverter, giant ferris wheel, himalya, yo yo, top spin, monster, tilt a whirl, matterhorn, bumper cars

2 kiddie sections, about equal to PKI in rides, a Warner Bros themed area, and 7 new flat rides on kiddie side.

Strong water park, and strong zoo/wildlife area.

Nice setting on the lake. Theming is weak.

Good coasters are about even at both parks. Six flags is a better "all around" park, as it has the wildlife which KI has nothing that can compare with that. KI has longer operating hours and usually runs all coasters at capacity.

Monday, July 15, 2002 12:59 PM
To me, both PKI and SFWoA are about equal and I love them both. They have their own personality and atmosphere.


Better kid's area. They won the Golden Ticket Award for "Best Children's Area" by Amusement Today.

The coasters:

The Beast - the main reason I go to PKI in the first place.

Sonny - Interesting layout but a little too rough for me.

Vortex - a decent Arrow looper with some head banging. Also has an interesting, compact layout.

Top Gun - best suspended in Ohio.

The Racer - definitely ride it backwards if you go to the park.

If you are into waterparks, WaterWorks is the best water park-in-a-theme-park with the most varied attractions.

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You can choose from ten varied coaster experiences. X Flight, Villain, Batman Knight Flight, Big Dipper, and Superman are the highlights.

Wild Life - see Shouka the killer whale, the tigers at Tiger Island, dolphins, the new Base Camp Zebra, sea lions, and the Batman Water Stunt Show.

About Six Flags closing early, the rides close at 9:00 Sunday through Thursday and open till 10:00 on Friday and Saturday.

And the best park ever is - BGW, followed by PKI, SFGAm, SFWoA, then CP.

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Monday, July 15, 2002 1:17 PM
PKI and LL
Monday, July 15, 2002 2:26 PM

Hey Koasterking,

I'm sorry that I haven't finished those sections yet. I have started on them, and I will finish them whenever I get a chance to. ;) It will be minus the galleries though, those will come later on, maybe as a winter project or something. ;)

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Tuesday, July 16, 2002 3:34 PM

Thanks to everyone of you who posted and emailed.

Looks like PKI will be the way to go for us. I've always wanted to ride The Beast since I was a kid, so I was kinda leaning that way. But, the lure of X-Flight and Batman to the East sounded just as good!

We may hit SFWoA next spring, since we wanna hit CP a few more times this year as well. Now if PKI only had a Volcano as well! That ride rocked!

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 4:06 PM
ll has the best standup coaster in the nation!!! ;-)

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Tuesday, July 16, 2002 4:29 PM

Gruelurks -

I'd like to make a couple of suggestions, having just made the PKI / LL trip:

Ride the second seat on The Beast, unless you're into a more violent ride. It has a bit of a "hop" thing going on it now. Don't get me wrong; I like physically demanding coasters like Legend at HW, but this is different. Worst case, stay off the axil.

And make sure you ride The Beast after dark.

SOB can be no fun at on the axil, either. Or anywhere, for that matter

The Flyers are everything the say they are! I think they may be the best ride at PKI.

Ride Face/Off early or late. This ride has terrible capacity.

It's $2 to ride Screechin' Eagle if you don't get the ride all day pass, which I think is $15. I would ride this at least twice: front then back. it is easily the single best ride between these two parks. The back is truely stand-up air.

Hope you enjoy your trip!

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*** This post was edited by Chaindog on 7/16/2002. ***

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 6:23 PM

Come on down and enjoy a traditional park in Lesoursdville Lake. Thursdays are $1 days for everything except food and drink.

PKI consitantly runs at capasity where as SFWOA you never know what you are going to get, I still recomend though that if you are doing this on a saturday get to PKI early and hit the majors then spend the afternoon/evening at Lesourdsville because my experiance at any corprate park is saturdays are insanely busy.


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Lesourdsville Lake, The great American amusement park opens the season June 6th Thurs-Sun every week. Park phone is (513)539-2193

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 9:39 PM

Since you are going to PKI, try to make it on a weekday. Some other hints:

If you're looking for excitement (and who isn't?) ride the Vortex twice: once in the back car, and once in the front seat. The front seat is worth the wait as there is about 4-5 feet of leg room and you can stick your legs straight out.

If you aren't going on a Saturday, ride TR:TR twice. The first time, for almost everyone who rides, it sucks. But I loved the second time, it was pure fun. Maybe not worth quite as much as they spent on it, but still lots of fun.

Don't miss Adventure Express. IMO it is the best mine train not operated by Disney.

Just out of curiosity, why does everyone here love Top Gun so much? I don't see anyone raving about Runaway Reptar, and the two rides are very similar (very short rides, rather mild, great starter rides that are good for the kids)

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:04 PM

How can you compare TG to RRR? Top Gun is so much taller, faster and longer than RRR. They are not made by the same desiginers. TG is very intense...I don't get why you would state the oppisite. Have you even SEEN Top Gun? IMHO, it is the very BEST Arrow-PERIOD.

KI is a very special park. The rides are great, the atmosphere is top notch, and the layout is, IMHO, the best I'v ever encountered.

I haven't been to Six Flags Islands-Err, I mean Worlds Of Adventure in a few years. I remember B:KF being the best floorless-heck, the best B&M I have ever rode outside of FL. Villian is also outstanding but that's about it.

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