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Monday, September 11, 2000 4:56 PM
There were so many highlights in this trip, and I don't want to go into great detail. This was one of my favorite trips yet. It featured myself, coastering buddy Chris, coastering buddy Nick, and newcomer Cash. Cash isn't an enthusiast so he learned plenty of jargon on this trip. Anyway on with the ratings.

I will throw out the Griswold scale and use the good ol' 1-10.

The Park:
Food was way over priced. $5.25 for a sport bottle and $2.50 for refills. OUCH. That's not it, tax with it. Other than the steep prices, I couldn't find a thing to complain about. The park is beautiful. There is plenty a' room to expand. If all 6 Flags parks are like this, I don't see why people complain. Don't quote me, but we saw some red stuff from the ferris wheel. There was never a stacking problem on any rides for those who care.

The Boss 9.5
uh whoa. That sums it up. The new #1 woody spanks the old #1 woody (Villain) 10x's over. The ride is awesome. It's sheer length and height is amazing. The amazing drops and turns and the sweetest ending to a coaster ever make the ride almost perfect. Those *** lap bars hurt when we slammed into turns. We hit The Boss first and were first ones in the station. Naturally, we went to the back. Cash and I picked up the very last seat as Nick and Chris got infront of us. They didnt test it at all in the morning. We were the first train of the day. Boy, it was smooth as glass. We walked all the way down the longest exit and all the way up the longest entrance and rode very front seat. We waited 5 minutes. I sat next to Chris and Nick and Cash filled in behind. I bought the on-ride photo of us giving The Nipple and we went on our way.

Mr. Freeze back:8.5 front:7
Mr. Freeze is one awesome coaster. The back is very smooth but towards the front its gets kinda rough, but it's definately bearable. The top-hat is outta this world. We waited 5 minutes both times early on, and waited 10 minutes the last ti攀⸀ 㰀戀爀㸀 㰀戀爀㸀䈀愀琀洀愀渀 吀栀攀 刀椀搀攀 㐀⸀㔀 㰀戀爀㸀栀洀洀洀洀洀⸀ 䐀椀搀 琀栀攀礀 昀漀爀最攀琀 琀漀 愀搀搀 猀漀洀攀琀栀椀渀最 琀漀 琀栀椀猀 挀漀愀猀琀攀爀㼀 圀攀 眀愀椀琀攀搀 ㈀㔀 洀椀渀甀琀攀猀 昀漀爀 琀栀椀猀⸀ 䌀愀猀栀 攀砀挀氀愀椀洀攀搀⸀⸀⸀⸀⸀ ∀刀愀瀀琀漀爀 椀猀 猀漀漀漀漀漀 洀甀挀栀 戀攀琀琀攀爀⸀∀ 一漀 䨀漀欀攀⸀  㰀戀爀㸀 㰀戀爀㸀一椀渀樀愀 㔀 㰀戀爀㸀䬀椀渀搀愀 爀漀甀最栀Ⰰ 最漀漀搀 搀爀漀瀀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 愀眀攀猀漀洀攀 渀攀愀爀 搀攀挀愀瀀椀琀愀琀椀漀渀 昀爀漀洀 琀栀攀 挀栀愀椀渀⸀ 圀愀椀琀攀搀 㔀 昀漀爀 戀愀挀欀 㰀戀爀㸀 㰀戀爀㸀匀挀爀攀攀挀栀椀渀✀ 䔀愀最氀攀 㠀 㰀戀爀㸀吀栀椀猀 爀椀搀攀 眀愀猀 昀甀渀⸀  圀攀 眀愀椀琀攀搀 ㄀  洀椀渀甀琀攀猀 昀漀爀 戀愀挀欀 搀甀爀椀渀最 琀栀攀 搀愀礀 愀渀搀 眀愀氀欀ⴀ漀渀 愀琀 渀椀最栀琀⸀ 吀栀攀 渀椀最栀琀 爀椀搀攀 眀愀猀 猀眀攀攀琀⸀ 圀栀攀渀 眀攀 猀琀愀爀琀攀搀 琀漀 瀀甀氀氀 漀甀琀Ⰰ 挀栀爀椀猀 愀渀搀 䤀 猀琀愀爀琀攀搀 挀栀攀攀爀椀渀最⸀ 吀栀攀 漀瀀 猀琀漀瀀瀀攀搀 琀栀攀 爀椀搀攀 昀漀爀 愀 昀攀眀 猀攀挀漀渀搀猀⸀ 圀攀 猀琀漀瀀瀀攀搀 挀栀攀攀爀椀渀最⸀ 匀栀攀 琀甀爀渀攀搀 琀栀攀 爀椀搀攀 戀愀挀欀 漀渀⸀ 圀攀 猀琀愀爀琀攀搀 挀栀攀攀爀椀渀最⸀ 匀栀攀 猀琀漀瀀瀀攀搀 琀栀攀 爀椀搀攀 愀最愀椀渀 昀漀爀 愀 昀攀眀 猀攀挀漀渀搀猀⸀ 圀攀 猀琀漀瀀瀀攀搀 挀栀攀攀爀椀渀最⸀ 匀栀攀 搀椀搀 琀栀椀猀 甀渀琀椀氀 眀攀 眀攀爀攀 愀氀氀 琀栀攀 眀愀礀 漀甀琀 漀昀 琀栀攀 猀琀愀琀椀漀渀⸀ 䤀琀 眀愀猀 挀漀漀氀⸀  㰀戀爀㸀 㰀戀爀㸀䬀椀渀最 䴀椀渀攀 吀爀愀椀渀 㐀⸀㔀 㰀戀爀㸀吀栀椀猀 椀猀 戀礀 昀愀爀 琀栀攀 戀攀猀琀 洀椀渀攀 琀爀愀椀渀 攀瘀攀爀 䤀 栀愀瘀攀 攀瘀攀爀 戀攀攀渀 漀渀⸀ 眀愀椀琀攀搀 ㄀㔀 昀漀爀 戀愀挀欀⸀ 㰀戀爀㸀 㰀戀爀㸀䤀琀 眀愀猀 愀 最爀攀愀琀 琀爀椀瀀Ⰰ 䈀漀猀猀 最漀琀 眀漀爀猀攀 琀栀攀 洀漀爀攀 眀攀 爀漀搀攀 椀琀⸀ 䤀琀 爀攀愀氀氀礀 栀攀愀琀猀 甀瀀 愀渀搀 戀攀挀漀洀攀猀 瀀爀攀琀琀礀 爀漀甀最栀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 渀漀琀 愀猀 戀愀搀 愀猀 嘀椀氀氀愀椀渀⸀ 䤀 愀洀 渀漀琀 漀渀攀 琀漀 挀漀洀瀀氀愀椀渀 愀戀漀甀琀 爀漀甀最栀渀攀猀猀Ⰰ 戀甀琀 䜀攀爀猀琀愀甀氀攀爀⠀猀瀀㼀⤀ 爀攀愀氀氀礀Ⰰ 爀攀愀氀氀礀 渀攀攀搀 琀漀 昀椀砀 琀栀漀猀攀 氀愀瀀 戀愀爀猀⸀  㰀戀爀㸀 㰀戀爀㸀圀攀 爀漀搀攀㨀 㰀戀爀㸀䈀漀猀猀㨀 㔀 琀椀洀攀猀 㰀戀爀㸀䘀爀攀攀稀攀㨀 ㌀ 琀椀洀攀猀 㰀戀爀㸀䈀㨀吀刀 ㄀ 琀椀洀攀 㰀戀爀㸀一椀渀樀愀㨀 ㄀ 琀椀洀攀 㰀戀爀㸀䴀椀渀攀㨀 ㄀ 琀椀洀攀 㰀戀爀㸀匀 䔀愀最氀攀㨀 琀眀椀挀攀 㰀戀爀㸀 㰀戀爀㸀眀攀 愀氀猀漀 眀愀渀搀攀爀攀搀 昀漀爀 愀戀漀甀琀 㐀 栀漀甀爀猀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 爀漀搀攀 栀愀栀愀栀愀栀愀栀愀栀愀樀漀欀攀爀栀愀栀愀栀愀栀愀栀愀栀愀 ㌀ 琀椀洀攀猀⸀ 䌀栀爀椀猀✀猀 搀愀搀 挀愀洀攀 椀渀 猀攀挀漀渀搀 愀琀 栀椀猀 爀愀挀攀Ⰰ 眀攀 最漀琀 欀椀挀欀攀搀 漀甀琀琀愀 眀愀氀⨀洀愀爀琀Ⰰ 猀愀眀 氀漀琀琀猀愀 洀甀氀氀攀琀猀 愀琀 琀栀攀 爀愀挀攀 琀爀愀挀欀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 戀爀愀最最攀搀 琀漀 洀愀渀礀 愀✀ 瀀攀漀瀀氀攀 漀昀 栀漀眀 最爀攀愀琀 䌀攀搀愀爀 倀漀椀渀琀 椀猀⸀ 㰀戀爀㸀ⴀ䴀椀欀攀 㰀戀爀㸀ⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀⴀ 㰀戀爀㸀䌀倀Ⰰ 匀䘀伀Ⰰ 䠀倀Ⰰ 䈀䜀圀Ⰰ 倀䬀䤀Ⰰ 匀䘀匀琀䰀 㰀戀爀㸀 㰀戀爀㸀 ⨀⨀⨀ 吀栀椀猀 瀀漀猀琀 眀愀猀 攀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 瀀甀渀欀 漀渀 㤀⼀㄀㄀⼀㈀   ⸀ ⨀⨀⨀ 㰀戀爀㸀ഀ਀ഀ਀ഀ਀ ⨀⨀⨀ 吀栀椀猀 瀀漀猀琀 眀愀猀 攀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 䨀攀昀昀 漀渀 㤀⼀㄀㈀⼀㈀   ⸀ ⨀⨀⨀
Monday, September 11, 2000 7:15 PM
Wow, I was actually at SFSL on the 9th.

Randy Hutchinson
You build it, I'll ride it
Monday, September 11, 2000 8:48 PM
I was at SFStl about 8 years ago so Boss, Mr. Freeze, and Batman:TR were not there at the time. I liked the layout alot but there wasnt enough for me to consider it a great park. But since they have added 3 coasters I am sure I would love it. Hey Punk, do yourself a favor and visit SFGAm. Than you will realize how an SF park is supposed to be operated and the original Batman is one intense invert.

Tuesday, September 12, 2000 4:58 AM
Hey, Punk...Glad you had a good time. I definitely agree on your opinions on The Boss, Batman and Mr. Freeze. Their Batman clone is probably the worst. I walked off wondering what went wrong.
Tuesday, September 12, 2000 7:46 PM
SFStL's batman was the first one I rode on, so it's good to hear that they get better.

Randy Hutchinson
You build it, I'll ride it
Saturday, September 23, 2000 5:43 PM
First off, SFStL is my home park, and I TOTALLY agree about the over priced food. I mean, 2.50 for a 20 oz. bottle of coke? But what are you talking about, Ninja better than Batman? Are you crazy?! Sorry, I don't mean to sound rude, but Batman is great, and IMO it's better than Raptor. I found Raptor somewhat slow and unintense. Also, Batman is the best looking of the Batman clones, seeing as how the others are covered in 2 inches of rust. But I'm not here to judge, so I'll let you have your opinion. Oh, and by the way, it's Screamin' Eagle, not Screechin.

Sunday, September 24, 2000 11:32 AM
mullets are haircuts that hill jacks have. It must take a lot to please you because Raptor is the only B&M invert I'll ride.
Sunday, September 24, 2000 6:37 PM
Hey, my name's Chris... I'm the one that who's dad took us on this trip. I agree with Mike (punk) overpriced food, B:TR was so boring I had a frown on my face riding it after we waited in line for it, and yesterday I rode Raptor. There is no way it equals up. Plenty of Mullets (if lost visit and the Boss, Mr.Freeze, and Screechin' Eagle (technical term) made the trip stand out.

"MF Tickler Hill"
Tuesday, September 26, 2000 4:11 PM
Well, Batman isn't the most intense ride ever made, but it is MUCH more intense than Raptor. The way you talk, you are just trying to find a way to put down a coaster that's smaller than Raptor. Bigger isn't better.(I'll make an exception in the case of MF) I also saw where you asked if they forgot to add something to Batman. Once again, you're just trying to put it down because it's smaller than Raptor. Just face it, not EVERY coaster at CP is better than everywhere else. I'm not trying to act like a jerk, I just hate it though when people put down rides at certain parks, SFStL being a prime example, just because it isn't as big or doesn't get as much publicity as other parks.

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 12:02 PM
Well, whatever. I've been on every B&M inverted layout in this country except Top Gun at PGA. My fav inverted is Montu. I love the pacing, the elements...everything seems to flow so perfectly together. My least favorite inverted is Batman. I'm not sure if it's because I've been riding it since 1992 or if it's because it's so short, but I just prefer every other B&M invert to Batman.

I think my rankings of B&M inverts would be:

Fire Dragon
Top Gun at PC
Great Bear
Ice Dragon

I love every one of them, but the last three are not in the same category as the first four.
Sunday, October 1, 2000 4:02 PM
I think the greatest misconception among people is that if a coaster is a person't least favorite from a designer then it must be a bad coaster. Case in point is that a lot of people think Wild Thing at Valleyfair number three in the Cedar Fair Hypercoaster Trilogy. (the others being Mamba and Steel Force) Wild Thing is still a great coaster, its just that the other two are awesome.

If anyone is confused give a shout out and I'll try and explain.

Randy Hutchinson
You build it, I'll ride it
Monday, October 2, 2000 4:16 PM
They really need to boost up on the coaster total though.

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