SFMM is on the chopping block due to not being a family oriented park. This I understand because I was there in Feb. 2005 and I can vouch for that. It's alot of coasters and not much else.
SFGAdv from what I have been hearing has 2 new themed sections which are great but the rest of the park is ho-hum. I also heard the waterpark only runs on weekends until July.
Then you have SFGAm. This park has consistently been regarded as a well rounded park with 12 coasters, 2 kids areas, and alot of flats throughout the park. Not to mention when coasters in this park can run more than one train, they consistently run them with 2 or more trains. Even on dead days, you wont find a coaster in this park running one train unless its Deja Vu and V2.
Why is this? Why is SFGAm constantly doing the right thing for the most part and the rest of the chain especially the other 2 big SF parks are coming up short?
Am I missing something? I know I am spoiled with having the SF Chicago park performing, but why can't the other SF parks get their act together and do the same?
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I also think SFGAm has just happened to have received the additions it has needed over the years, whereas parks like SFMM have received far too many coasters and not enough family attractions.
There are several Six Flags parks that I want nothing to do with at this time because of poor operations, etc but if I am ever in the Chicago area, SFGAm is one Six Flags park I would want to visit.
Come to the park on a weekend this summer. Attendance at this park has to be up.
Also dont say that great adventure is doing bad because you think so.
You have to combine the attendance of all 3 parks (wild safari,hurricane harbor,and the theme park)verses the other parks.
Give me solid facts Not speculation. *** Edited 7/1/2006 12:15:25 PM UTC by majortom1981***
Oh, and of course it's also because Great America is such a well run park with great coasters. :)
I'm not sure we need another thread fishing for SFGAm compliments that slowly turns into a "my homepark" thread. But I think one of the major keys to their success in Chicago is the fact that they didn't remove a bunch of classic attractions from that park. There is still something for everyone. Also the park is one of the few that is still operationally sound.
And I should point out that I've never personally had a major problem with operations at SFGAdv, but I've also never been there on a busy day. Going just by what I have read and heard from others, though, operations at GAdv are quickly improving.
But I also agree with Chitown about the park being ho-hum, SFGadv outside of the areas around El Toro and Kingda Ka are dirty and scream paint me. Especially the Movie World Section near BTR and Nitro.
Maybe the two days I was there recently where just bad days, but The opperations there where less then adequate, In fact comparing the 2 days that I spent at SFMM(Feb 2005) up against the 2 days I spent at SFGadv(June 2006), Id have to say the park ops at SFMM where better then the days I spent at SFGadv.
One train ops, SLOW dispatches, run-down look of the Movie World Section, Smoking in lines, no security anywhere to be seen.
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Sure, some parks have no reports of drastic improvements this season, but I think overall, all the major parks have been heading in the right direction.
coasterdude318 said:It all comes down to who's in charge.
Not often do I quote Nate, but this hits the nail on the head SO squarely, I'mma do it twice...
It all comes down to who's in charge.
I would TEND to think the "lack of competition" would lead the park to WORSE operations and management, but it DOESN'T seem to. Nor does it work that way at SFoT, from my experience. Or SFStL. Or SFoG. SFGAdv has a LOT of room for improvement, but has made some strides. Just seems weird to me that some parks are SO well-run, and that others were left (in BIG markets) to languish for ten years or more under substandard management...SFMM, as the poster-child for mismanaged parks, is going away for good...much like LeSourdsville IMO, a park that could have (should have) been a success... :(
But it is ALL in the way they're run. A really solid GM makes the whole place more enjoyable. SFFT (smaller park, with competition, NOT the biggest market) had employees that were genuinely appreciative of their GUESTS....and it showed.
bill, returning to SFGAm...again.... :)
*** Edited 7/1/2006 9:05:08 PM UTC by rollergator***
Ahh, I'm going to have to go ahead and ask you to come in on Sunday, too...
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Their operations can't match either SFGam or SFOT I'm afraid, which is a shame because SFGadv should be the park that is the BEST example of what Six Flags represents, not one of the worst.
But in terms of being the bread winner, I'd still put SFGadv slightly ahead of SFGAm, and if they ever get their act completely together, it's no contest. I'm sure Shapiro will demand it, especially after witnessing the mess that is SFMM, which was once without a doubt, the bread winner, up till 2001 anyway. Now the park desperately needs a hero. *** Edited 7/2/2006 3:33:40 AM UTC by DWeaver***
I've been to the park 4 or 5 times since the mid-nineties. Every time I go there are lots of major attractions closed. Even this last time (http://www.coasterbuzz.com/forum.aspx?mode=thread&TopicID=45023) it was literally a nightmare. Superman was broken down on my way in, as was Medusa. Chiller was down all day. Rolling Thunder had the red/blue side open only.
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