Thursday, August 10, 2000 7:30 AM
You should contribute this to the news section...
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Thursday, August 10, 2000 8:23 AM
WOW! Time to make plans to get back to one of my favorite parks!
Thursday, August 10, 2000 8:33 AM
SWEEET!!! I can't wait to try out a Giovanola coaster! I'm glad SFoT is my home park.
Craig the Coaster Freak
Thursday, August 10, 2000 8:34 AM
The article is a little off, hypercoasters do not have loops or corkscrews??? What about Steel Phantom. Well, I have never seen an article with all true facts.
DOWN WITH TRIM BRAKES!
Thursday, August 10, 2000 8:41 AM
But you yourself said that Steel Phantom beats Viper as the world's tallest looping coaster. Now you say it's a hyper, which is it? As far as I know, hypers do not have inversions, period. The whole concept is built around that.
*** This post was edited by Simcoaster on 8/10/2000. ***
Thursday, August 10, 2000 8:48 AM
"You should contribute this to the news section... "
I already did, it just hasn't been posted.
*** This post was edited by coaster0 on 8/10/2000. ***
Thursday, August 10, 2000 9:02 AM
I'm sorry Craig, you were not the one who said Steel Phantom was the largest looping coaster, but whoever said it was right, it is. Hypercoasters do not loop, nor do they feature OTSR. SP is the world's tallest, fastest looping coaster. Well that will all change today!
Thursday, August 10, 2000 9:27 AM
A hypercoaster is usually defined as a coaster with a height or drop of 200 feet or more, regardless of inversions. The Phantom is a hypercoaster, as is Son of Beast.
Thursday, August 10, 2000 9:40 AM
So that would mean there are two types, looping and non-looping. Somehow to me that defeats the purpose. Magnum was the first hypercoaster as defined by Arrow and CP, intentionally built without inversions. I never saw SP as a hypercoaster just because it was 200 feet tall, nor Manhattan Express in vegas. Just my opinion.
Thursday, August 10, 2000 9:55 AM
So basically your saying that if Viper at SFMM were 12 feet higher it would be a hyper? That just doesn't fit.
Thursday, August 10, 2000 10:07 AM
SimC: yep that's right Viper is just shy of hypercoaster status. I dont know anything that precludes loops in a hyper. "Traditionally" (if any thing only 11 years old can be called traditional) they do not, which is to say that Magnum didnt when it came out and the term was coined. Furthermore, as the story goes, a journalist penned the moniker "Hypercoaster" not Arrow or CP.....
Thursday, August 10, 2000 10:19 AM
If Viper was 12 feet taller, then I would say it is a hypercoaster. Why doesn't that fit? Hypercoaster was coined to describe a 200-foot tall coaster. Just because Arrow and CP built Magnum without inversions doesn't mean all hypers should have no inversions. The layout and number of inversions (if any) aren't relevant. Apollo's Chariot is an out and back, Raging Bull is a twister -- but they're both hypers. Steel Eel is called a junior hyper. Why? Because it is under 200 feet tall and doesn't have a drop of 200 feet. This was how I always defined a hyper, but I could be wrong.
Thursday, August 10, 2000 10:20 AM
But they were built for the purpose of giving higher faster classic wooden coaster experiences. I just don't see anything with OTSR doing that. Even SOB just has a lap bar.
Thursday, August 10, 2000 10:32 AM
I don't ever recall hearing the purpose of hypers being to give "higher faster classic wooden coaster experiences." I thought they were built to be tall and fast. When Millennium Force was built, it was only termed a "giga-coaster" because of its height, nothing else.
Thursday, August 10, 2000 10:49 AM
Help Jeff!!! They just don't get it :(
Thursday, August 10, 2000 11:20 AM
Anyone actually read all of the article? I'm surprised no one mentioned the Paul Ruben Misstep at the end! From the article......
'The new Giovanola coaster is expected to move about 1,600 riders an hour, which is about 200 more riders than the park's highest-capacity coaster, Batman, The Ride.
"I think a prime concern of a park with the annual attendance Six Flags Over Texas has is to find rides with large capacity," Ruben said. "People go there to ride, not to stand in line, and Goliath will help to solve that problem."
Staff writer Steve McLinden contributed to this report.'
Yeah, Goliath will solve the problem all right, by having people go hundreds of miles west to SFMM to avoid SFOT! Ruben strikes again!
Thursday, August 10, 2000 1:15 PM
Ok stop the debate!! They are all damn ROLLERCOASTERS!!! Regardless of height, weight, color, inversions, g's, capacity, name, bunnyhops, camelbacks, cobra rolls, and souvenir bottle size, they are ROLLERCOASTERS.
Thursday, August 10, 2000 1:58 PM
anyone ver hear of hyper-loopers? that is the term i have heard being tossed around for some time.
48.6mi. - CP
27.2mi. - SFO
3 MF rides:
3-2, 5-1, 9-2
Thursday, August 10, 2000 6:15 PM
OK, I can hang with the hyperlooper thing :) But to put SP and ME in the same category as RB and Magnum sounds absurd to me.