Sunday, August 27, 2000 6:19 AM
KoasterKid's Parent Here.
Needed to express our extreme dissatisfaction with SFO. I have been attending parks my whole life and have never seen a major attraction like this operated so poorly. The day was a bust from A-Z.
The place was very crowded but less than half the park was open (and 11-7 park hours). They gave you a flyer after you paid parking that the park is in partial operation due to low attendance. [yeah right]
1st- if you put any more people in this poorly laid out park you would have grid lock.
2nd when many people have come from hours away, taken vacation etc, who would turn around and go home at that point?
If they were honestly trying to notify the public, why wouldn't they post ride closings on their website daily?
Listening to others in line, our feelings seemed representative. Heard several patrons giving park supervision %*///##$%&, and I was thinking could'nt have said it better myself.
Supposedly the reason for the low operating rate was a labor shortage. The employees appeared very disorganized, unmotivated and there were as many chiefs as there were indians. Turnover time on many rides was sluggish at best.
It was a very hot day, the water park was shoulder to shoulder but only the wave pool, kiddie pool and 1 kiddie slide was open. Speaking about the wave pool, they have some crazy policy that they empty it frequently and make guests stand on the shore while the life guards play in the waves and paying guests watch. What is this?
My kid was turned away from 2 attractions at the point of entry after completely waiting in line due to some unposted policy interpretation. What is worse, is that later that day, observed 5 instances of the same thing totally ignored.
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Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:51 AM
Sounds like SFO is up to their usual tricks. Did you get a discount price since only part of the park was operating? When I went last year -- on opening day, no less! -- several of their rides were still in pieces on the ground, others simply not there,no shows open, and not all items were available at the concessions. And we paid full price, no discounts. We spent less than half a day and went home, vowing not to go back until we heard they cleaned up their act. Apparently they haven't.
Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:52 AM
BTW, what was the policy being inconsistently enforced?
Sunday, August 27, 2000 11:15 AM
I was there yesterday, Sat. 26th. I got in free as a guest. Yes, I should not complain as a freeloader but my report of my trip can be summed up as all of the above in KoasterKid's thread. I feel real bad for thise who had to pay, considering the fact that it was total gridlock on the midways yesterday.
Sunday, August 27, 2000 3:54 PM
The policy that frosted me, was not posted and was inconsistently enforced was wearing swimming shoes in the gotcha games in the Looney Tunes boomtown. My son and daughter waited in line 20 minutes only to be turned away as they were up because the ride op determined that swim shoes were not really shoes. They came back in tears. Later that day we tried again after they put their tennys back on. There were 5 kids on the ride in swimming shoes. I guess what made it worse was that today's swim shoes, boat shoes and tennis shoes can be very gray. This may sound minor but in combination with all the other bologna that day....
Also they need height gages at the entrance to all restricted rides. Don't wait until a kid has waited in line for 45 minutes and in the seat ready to ride to kick him off because he is borderline. (heartbreak once again)
At least at CP you know where you stand.
Too much fun and enjoyment.
Sunday, August 27, 2000 4:55 PM
I was there on Sat 26th and have to agree with Vince it was total gridlock. The biggest waste of time and money. Dare I say it was better when they were just plain old Geauga Lake?Thats just my opinon.
Monday, August 28, 2000 4:57 PM
I had a great time at SFO a couple of weeks ago. They have some great coasters and even if the waits should be 5 minutes and are 15 min. its better then cedar point where it should be an hour wait and is. At somepoint in the day every coaster at CP had at least an hour wait. Everyone says its no doubt the greatest park in the world but IMO IOA and BGW kicks its booty.
Tuesday, August 29, 2000 11:11 AM
I have to agree with all the downsides to SFO. We went there as the last stop on a coaster trip 2 weeks ago and found nothing but a poorly run operation. What was up with that Batman stunt show? We've seen it at several other SF parks and enjoyed it (yeah it's alittle cheesy, but still). However this one was obviously just thrown in there as an ofterthought (no stadium, sitting on the grass, lots of obstructed views).
As for the coasters, I've been on better. I actually coan't comment on Serial or Batman as we skipped them due to not being able to find a wait time. Villain was very painful. They call it a woodie, but could someone correct me, isn't that structure made of steel, meaning it doesn't have much "give" to it? Raging Wolf was actually pretty good. Superman, big snooze! Other than that point where the ride throws you into your restraint at the top of the back hill, I was bored.
Way too crowded, not enough room to move, no operators at the entrances to enforce rules (no smoking in the queues, or at least cut it down some), no wait time signs, and food choices that didn't amount to much made us leave early. Good thing we got discounted tickets from AAA.
Tuesday, August 29, 2000 2:27 PM
You think your day was bad at SFO? It took me over 5 hours to get to the park when it should have only taken 2! I went on a Saturday and the traffic was backed up for miles and miles and miles and miles. And what made it even worse, we were moving about 2 feet every minute (probably slower!). Then when we were almost to the park, the car would not shift out of first gear.
If you wanna read the whole TR, it is right here: http://www.coasterbuzz.com/forums/thread.asp?ForumID=13&TopicID=1565
Bryan, AKA CPbanshee
Tuesday, August 29, 2000 4:45 PM
Good point Bryan, I had forgotten (or at least tried to forget) the lack of decent roads in the area. A small 2 lane highway is the main thing that gets you to the park? And they don't even have a traffic light there! When you leave, plan on turning right because you'll never leave if you want to turn left.
Wednesday, August 30, 2000 11:29 AM
I wish someone would say something good about SFO, because I really want to go there. But with all these negative TR's I'm thinking twice about considering a trip there.
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Wednesday, August 30, 2000 3:42 PM
O.K. (SFO is a great park),But I still would not waste my time and money going there.Sorry SFO fans.
*** This post was edited by coaster chris on 8/30/2000. ***
Wednesday, August 30, 2000 3:52 PM
Goliath: The most intense Hyper in the world.
Wednesday, August 30, 2000 6:16 PM
If you have a season pass, go check out Villain and S:UE. I wouldn't pay full price though...
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Wednesday, August 30, 2000 7:33 PM
would u like some cheese with ur whine?
Wednesday, August 30, 2000 7:41 PM
I had a great day at SFO, but I was there with the GOCC(Greater Ohio Coaster Club) get together. I found the lines to be acceptable and the water park to be great. Looney Tunes Boomtown is a truly unique attaction that is also fun for adults. Wish we had one of those at SFA! Though I did notice that It took the parking lot almost an hour to empty. Thankfully, I got to spend that time ridding Knight Flight and Villian over and over again :-)!! Though, I would not go there paying full price or without that extra ride. Waiting in line an hour to leave is NOT my idea of fun.
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Thursday, August 31, 2000 6:38 PM
Hey Shady a lot people do call Villain wooden, they also call it one of the best wooden coasters in the country! Once again though I had a great time at SFO, even if many people didnt.
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Friday, September 1, 2000 4:59 AM
OK, but I still consider several other coasters (that I've ridden anyway) better in the wooden category. Names such as The Beast, Comet & Wildcat (Hershey), Racer/Rebel Yell, etc. I guess Villian just seemed too small for me and still painful to ride. I don't mind pain if it's long driving helixes like Beast, but these were short turns that kept driving the lapbar into my gut. Again, it seems I'm in the minority for my dislike of Villian, but that's OK. If we all liked the same things, coasters would be pretty boring wouldn't they? :-)
Tuesday, September 5, 2000 3:16 PM
SFO is my favorite park. My favorite ride out of any place is the Villain, but sometimes the lap bars are a little too heavy and they fall down all the way on my lap, which won't provide much air over the hills.
I know the park has it problems, but they'll work it out over a period of time. If any of you want a better day to go to SFO, go soon during Fright Fest. The crowds are usually light and you can get some awesome rides on The Villain at nighttime.
The park closes Oct. 29th!
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