"SFMM were so cheap to get the record with a kiddi

When the trio of coasters were announced for SFMM's 2001 season, even to this day, I still hear arguments on how Goliath JR was a rip just to grap the world record for most coasters. I always get so aggravated when I see comments like that. A lot of us get so absorbed in our own thrillseeking manner and fascination with the new 300 FT coaster or next prototype that we don't see that we're not the only ones that visit parks.

What in most part do amusement parks attract? FAMILIES. And what does nearly every family usually consist of? At least ONE small child (or did). So how are you expecting a 5 or 6 year old taking a ride on Mean Streak or Alpengeist? For those that argue about SFMM using 'cheap' methods to grab the record, Cedar Point also has two junior coasters. Almost every major park has one. PKI has FOUR and it never got bashed for it, even after the Rugrats Runaway Reptar Coaster opened. I believe a junior coaster is VERY important addition and the more, definetely the better. It gives a giant coaster park more appeal and a bigger reason as to why 'junior' can come along with big brother and big sister and mommy and daddy to a park rather than stay home with Jenny the babysitter. It also means more fun for everybody. While big bro and sis are on X and The Riddler's Revenge, 'junior' is having the time of his life on TWO pint sized coasters made just for him (and he won't have to sit on the bench and watch big bro and sis ride). And at the end of the day, he can look back and determine to come back and ride the BIG rides. It's also a training ground for future thrill seekers! Do you want our race of coaster fanatics to die out!? I HOPE NOT!

Well said. Besides, SFMM isn't getting the record with the opening of Goliath Jr. anyway, the record comes when X opens in July. But your right, some self-absorbed adults and teens with no children often forget that tiny tots go out to parks as well. That's what I love most about Paramount parks so much, they dedicate whole sections of their parks to kids and their obsession with Rugrats and other cartoons. I hope SFMM adds another family ride next year, it's the one thing Knott's and Disney have always had over them.


If kiddie coasters don't count for anything, I'd like some of you to tell that to me 8 year old neice, you wanna talk about hell to pay???

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"You are the weakest link...goodbye". *** This post was edited by DWeaver on 4/22/2001. ***

Six Flags Magic Mountain has Bugs Bunny World and it was recently redone too.

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"You are the weakest link, Goodbye"

Runaway Reptar looks like a good coaster. I haven't seen any photos of Goliath Jr. yet, but I sure that kids and families love it.

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Coaster Xtreme
"No sig today...or is there"

I agree!

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Oooooh, my freekin' head.... Too many G's Too many G's! No, no, Too much Beer before the G's! Home Park: Knott's Berry Farm

Even if they WERE building it just to get the record, so what? Its about the cash. Cedar Point has 2 kiddie coasters (you could maybe consider mine ride and disaster transport ones as well), and they don't get thrashed. If you are going to build a new ride or 2 for the big kids, build one for the smaller one. Look at Paramount's Carowinds, they have loaded up on family rides and they attract people from ages 2 to 92.

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"I traded my soul for a ride on Millennium Force"
www.starcoasters.com

CP includes Woodstock's Express and Gemini Jr.. Therefore, SFMM has every right to include Goliath Jr., In fact I believe that CP's Woodstock was built for the sole purpose of maintaining the coaster record.

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kRaXLeRidAh said:
"When the trio of coasters were announced for SFMM's 2001 season, even to this day, I still hear arguments on how Goliath JR was a rip just to grap the world record for most coasters. I always get so aggravated when I see comments like that. A lot of us get so absorbed in our own thrillseeking manner and fascination with the new 300 FT coaster or next prototype that we don't see that we're not the only ones that visit parks.

What in most part do amusement parks attract? FAMILIES. And what does nearly every family usually consist of? At least ONE small child (or did). So how are you expecting a 5 or 6 year old taking a ride on Mean Streak or Alpengeist? For those that argue about SFMM using 'cheap' methods to grab the record, Cedar Point also has two junior coasters. Almost every major park has one. PKI has FOUR and it never got bashed for it, even after the Rugrats Runaway Reptar Coaster opened. I believe a junior coaster is VERY important addition and the more, definetely the better. It gives a giant coaster park more appeal and a bigger reason as to why 'junior' can come along with big brother and big sister and mommy and daddy to a park rather than stay home with Jenny the babysitter. It also means more fun for everybody. While big bro and sis are on X and The Riddler's Revenge, 'junior' is having the time of his life on TWO pint sized coasters made just for him (and he won't have to sit on the bench and watch big bro and sis ride). And at the end of the day, he can look back and determine to come back and ride the BIG rides. It's also a training ground for future thrill seekers! Do you want our race of coaster fanatics to die out!? I HOPE NOT!"

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You are correct... but SFMM might not even get the record this year anyway so ha. I am not starting anything against SFMM and I am not for CP. I am just saying watch that happend with X messing up or whatever is going on.
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Georgia Scorcher...OH yeah it's fire baby!!!

Well said Kraxle and I fully agree. Kids are always in awe when they come across any of the kids coasters at PKI. I would never put up with someone saying PKI had any record in mind when adding any of them. Try to find such a diverse collection of kiddie coasters(woodie, sitdown steel, inverted, suspended) anywhere else. Paramount does excellent overall in bringing the families in to a family park. There's always something for everyone. And kids admission at SF is more than reasonable(always half price).

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PKI-Wooden, Helix, and Kiddie Coaster Capital of the World!
The First and Only Gigabuzzer bigger than Millie, rising Faster than Maggie, and pulls more BS than MS ever will!!!

Both CP and MM have 2 kiddie coasters now, so what's the big deal?

i hope SFMW adds a family coaster i think theyre real fun. take cornball express that looks like one of the best coasters for 2001. i have a little sister and she cant get on big rides so im glad theres coasters for her or else we wouldnt be able to go to amusement parks.

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are you ready to go vertical... v2... SFMW... 2001

Scorcher's right...MM doesn't even have the record yet..not until X opens.....but I do think it was a good idea for MM to add a smaller coaster. They don't have much to appeal to younger people.

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PointMan said:
"CP includes Woodstock's Express and Gemini Jr.. Therefore, SFMM has every right to include Goliath Jr., In fact I believe that CP's Woodstock was built for the sole purpose of maintaining the coaster record."

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I think they built it as a family coaster. There is a huge gap between Jr Gemini and the other coasters.

I don't know how many kiddy coasters MM has. If they have 3 like PKI and are building another, I would have to agree, they are only building it for the record. If they have only 1, then hell they need another one. Gotta make the little children happy

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You are the Weakest Link, Goodbye.

CP is in Ohio....and MM is in California..............that disserves a big WHO CARES.

One more coaster for either CP or SFMM is not going to result in more than a few enthusiasts making the plane trip. Neither park is going to lose business to the other.
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- Peabody

I was at Magic Mountain the other day, and I saw Goliath JR. and it looked really pathetic. Then I saw a full train with laughing kids, waving to their parents, and just having a great time. I think it was a wise investment, and one which will keep families happy.