SFMM Lex Luthor Drop of Doom Construction Video

It ought to be emphasized that building a ride that is high capacity does not obviously decrease lines or increase, loosely defined, "ride capacity" (by which I mean number of rides a rider can get at a park). This is because not held constant is the increase in riders that might be caused by the new ride. So building a low capacity ride isn't necessarily worse than building a high-capacity ride because it might be that this low capacity ride doesn't draw the same number of riders as a high-capacity one.

This argument here is consistent with the classic economic argument not to build new highways in the name of combating traffic.

Are we seeing it become popular because people WANT them, or because people feel forced to purchase them? I can only go by my personal experience with pay-to-cut, and I can't speak for other people who buy into it. I buy it because if I don't, I am guaranteed that people will cut in front of me. I do enjoy the benefits that I get from it, but if I had the choice, I'd make it either MORE exclusive (more expensive), so less people would use it, or I would like to not see it at all.

I figured you'd go this route. And that's okay. But what you're really talking about here is privileged entitlement. You don't think it's fair that someone is affecting YOUR leisure time. That is what this all boils down to, and it is very hypocritical.

I understand and don't have a problem with people being against pay to cut or pay to manage. That is fine.

But the attitude of "This is Wrong, because even though this isn't something I'm entitled to, I should get more than someone else, so I'm going to pay to get more because I shouldn't have to wait" is hypocritical.

I purchased fast pass because I didn't want to wait. I've done the same with Qbots. And yes, I felt that because I could afford it, and found value in it, that I'd utilize it. I didn't do it because I wanted to feel special. I didn't do it to tick off the people in line. The parks don't sell it to me in order to tick the other customers off.

But when you approach it as "The parks just want more money, and they should just be happy that I'm giving them MY money, and I shouldn't have to purchase fast lane/pass/bot/etc. just to get a ride on everything that I WANT, but I'm going to complain and do it anyway because I want what I WANT" is hypocritical, annoying, and wrong on so many levels.

I delt with the entitlement attitude when I worked in various low income programs, and that's one attitude that rakes my nerves more than just abotu anything. You're not entitled to anything. You get what you pay for. If you pay for more, you get more. Thats how our Free society works. If you start taking someone else's right to pay more away, or take a company's right to offer a higher priced premium item away, then why not take away freedom of religion, choice of political party, and everything else too?

One thing I read in a great article on Cracked once was that one of the important things kids aren't taught in school is that life isn't fair. It's not fair. But lets not take someone else's rights away just because I can't afford to purchase a luxury item priced higher than the luxury item I already have.

Tekwardo said:

You're not entitled to anything. You get what you pay for. If you pay for more, you get more. Thats how our Free society works. If you start taking someone else's right to pay more away, or take a company's right to offer a higher priced premium item away, then why not take away freedom of religion, choice of political party, and everything else too?

I started humming "God Bless America" when I read this part. :)

cdude3 said:It ought to be emphasized that building a ride that is high capacity does not obviously decrease lines or increase, loosely defined, "ride capacity"

I learned a little bit playing Roller Coaster Tycoon (serously!? Yes, it really works in real life). If your queue length (the actual length - the distance, not the number of people in it) is too short, it appears full to people wanting to ride - so they walk away mad. If the queue is too long, people get pissed off once they are stuck in the middle of said line, waiting.

If you have a high capacity ride with a medium sized queue that keeps moving, this is ideal. If you have a very long queue distance, but with only a few people in it, people get pissed simply for having to walk a ridiculous distance once inside the line (Great America do you see this? American Eagle, Viper, Superman, Raging Bull... ) they tend to get pissed off as well (as those coasters also have painfully stupid long exit routes.)

There is a *sweet spot* that balances physical length of queue with ride capacity. Then add to it queue mazes that can be opened/closed according to crowd (note how poorly some parks manage this which results in the usual "monkey see - monkey doo" of guests jumping over or under rails, which is against their own rules.)

There have been some great implementation of this idea, Gemini being one of the best I've seen (even though it runs at 50% the efficiency it used to be, but still not bad). I wish Six Flags would take note... but I'm sure they don't have the budget. Executive bonuses most likely come before that.

Man, the only thing roller coaster tycoon ever taught me was that roller coaster trains are filed with gasoline, and they explode upon any kind of impact.

*cough*wheresmy+1Gonch*cough*

Raven-Phile said:

Man, the only thing roller coaster tycoon ever taught me was that roller coaster trains are filed with gasoline, and they explode upon any kind of impact.

Very nice, I didn't know that. I thought the riders were cooking up meth...

I guess that would explain the erratic behavior of the guests.

New Video of the ride testing:

http://youtu.be/xXXgpPJmTE4

@ 3min mark: All I can say is Holy Crab, Mother Of Jesus, Unf%$§believable!

Enthusiasts will never learn to use tripods or at least how to steady themselves when free-handing.

Coaster enthusiast vs Photo enthusiast. ;-)

Jeff, I don't think anyone these days will know how to post an update video that's even worth watching. These updates from SFMM and SFDK are nothing more than "subscribes to mez!" videos, and they are crap!

~Rob

I thought the last video(especially from the 3 min mark) was pretty good.

Looks like the opening has been delayed to July 7th, with this ride I have them rather test to make sure everything is 100% vs. rushing to make an opening date