SFMM Collosus backwards makes 16.

Friday, November 9, 2001 10:28 PM
When the GRP made THEIR record breaking rollercoaster riding trip, GUINNESS counted Collosus as TWO rollercoasters. One forward AND One backward. By that same account, when totalling the number of coasters in the park (Collosus as 2), there are 16. Rumors of xtra trains behind Psyclone MAY be a clue that SFMM is planning to run one side Collosus backward (even if for just one season) so it can stay ahead of CP for MOST coasters. Hmmmmmm, Perhaps????
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Friday, November 9, 2001 10:50 PM
Simple. Colossus is not Colossuses, Colossus Forwards and Backwards, Colossus I and II. It is plainly colossus. It is a dueling coaster, not dueling coasters. It has the same course on either side, and it uses the same stucture for the tracks. Does switching a train around make the ride all of a sudden two coasters?

Anyway, under this loophole, CP could easily call Gemini two coasters in combat.

And no, S:TE isn't two dueling coasters either, coaster, yes, dueling, yes, two... NO!

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Saturday, November 10, 2001 5:32 AM
Paramount`s Kings Island counts their Racer, both forwards and backwards, as one coaster.
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Saturday, November 10, 2001 5:33 AM
the way guinness counts things you could set up an art museum in a park and call it a coaster.
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Saturday, November 10, 2001 6:21 AM
LOL true that!!
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Saturday, November 10, 2001 8:46 AM
Richard Wilson, my point was that Guiness DID count collossus as TWO coasters for the GRP event. Thus my question is: Mustn't Guiness count it as TWO coasters for the park total IF it were to run one side backwards full time and one side forward full time??? And YES, If Gemini ran one side backward, then it too must be counted twice.
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Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:05 AM
Neither coaster is full circut? as in both tracks are seperate, right? They could count it was two but they doth give the same ride.
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Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:07 AM
I never would have considered Collosus dueling.  Where are the near misses and the going head to head w/ the other track?  Racing yes, dueling no
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Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:34 AM
Collosus is a racing dual track wooden coaster. If they were to run one side backwards permanately I too would consider each side a different ride. But c'mon, this is SFMM we're talking about. It will never happen.
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Saturday, November 10, 2001 10:22 AM
nah its just one
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Saturday, November 10, 2001 10:22 AM
I don't see the point of parks wanting to make 2 coasters out of one. There are dueling costers like Gwazi and duel track coasters like Gemini. When these coasters were made, they were made as these types. Just because there are 2 tracks doesn't mean that there are 2 separate coasters.To me its just a desparate act to keep the record if it was counted like that. Guinness is a trip. They didn't count the Racer at PKI as 2 but they count this one as 2. If you ask me they just got a backwards right on the same coaster
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Saturday, November 10, 2001 10:37 AM
Gwazi At BGT is actually has two different track layouts.And they offer two completely different rides. Therefore I would consider it two different coasters.It is not racing but it is dueling (when you get lucky). But I would consider Collosus one Racing Coaster, Because Both tracks have the same layout.
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Saturday, November 10, 2001 10:48 AM
I personally would count any mirrored, dueling, or racing coaster as two different coasters as long as they provide two different experiences: the different layouts like Gwazi, Twisted Sisters, and Dueling Dragons; forwards and backwards like The Racer or Halloween Collosus. I wouldn't count Gemini, regular Collosus, or STE since both are the same experience just there's two tracks of it even though Gemini is mirrored. I see it as just a capacity thing and not for different ride experiences. As far as I'm concerned, SFMM, CP,and PKI are all currently tied for most coasters in the World...until X opens and the addition of whatever CP pulls out their peninsula.
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Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:01 AM
I don't understand Guinness at all....  excerpt from the TV show on FOX...."Ladies and Gentlemen, he has just launched his glass eye 45 feet 31/4 inches into a bowl of chili while standing on broken shards of glass with his bare feet.....!  A new Guinness Record!"   To answer your questions, it doesn't take much, obviously...
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Saturday, November 10, 2001 12:17 PM
They are two different courses, though. I can see why the rule is up that way. I've only been on the red side of Gemini, so I feel as if there is a whole 'nother ride, the blue one, that I have not been on yet. They may be the same ride, but there are two sets of track. Usually, no one would argue this for track records purposes, but I can't see counting them as just one. If it's sooo unimportant that there's "another side" or something, then there would be no point in even riding the other track of the double coasters.
Although, I originally found it cheap when they got two coasters in off on that show, strategic cheap planning:), and see the point of the arguement. I try to think of it this way:
From PKD, I've been on....Grizzly, Rebel Yell(both)...., or something like that.
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Saturday, November 10, 2001 2:12 PM
Of course, even counting it as two didn't help GRP as they got totally blown away by a ride for charity.

See Markey? Coasters really do have a purpose :) (and a great one at that!)

http://coasterbuzz.com/news/news.asp?NewsID=2655

http://coasterbuzz.com/news/news.asp?NewsID=2667

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