SFKK- Chang Question

Sunday, March 23, 2003 6:45 AM
I have been to SFKK many of times, since it is less than about an hour from my house, but everytime I have went, Chang only runs with one train. Each time I have been, have been pretty slow days. So, does Chang only have one train, if not, does it operate with more than one?

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Sunday, March 23, 2003 6:55 AM
It has two. But thanx to terrible operations and loading it rarely if ever runs with two.

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Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:34 AM
And the time I saw it run with two, the crew was stacking all day long.

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Sunday, March 23, 2003 8:13 AM
So is The Riddler's Revenge the only "mega" stand-up that runs all three trains? I heard Mantis' third coach retired, or something along those lines...
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Sunday, March 23, 2003 8:31 AM
The only two stand-ups that have three trains are Mantis and Riddler's Revenge.

Mantis' third train was "retired" a few years back. After one season with the retrofitted seatbelts, the park found that running three trains gained very little capacity (if any) over running only two. Since then the park has kept one train shrinkwrapped under the storage area for the entire season.

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Sunday, March 23, 2003 8:51 AM

Mark W. Baruth said:
And the time I saw it run with two, the crew was stacking all day long.

The last time I saw it run with one train the crew was stacking all day long. Don't even ask, because I have no idea how they managed that. I just know that people were consistently sitting on the brake run for no apparent reason and that a line which looked to be about 10 minutes ended up being almost an hour. There was also a duck running around in the queue. Yep, the park is definitely different.

On a somewhat related note, does anyone know what happened to the rest of T2's train? It seemed to be lacking a few cars.



*** This post was edited by Kristin Marie 3/23/2003 1:53:21 PM ***
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Sunday, March 23, 2003 9:03 AM
No, T2's train is just how it's supposed to be. Most, if not all, suspended loopers have that trail part of the train where it looks like a car should be. I belive that's the reasoning behind it....

FWIW, I've been to SFKK a few days where they were running 2 trains and weren't stacking too awfully bad.

--Ryan

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Sunday, March 23, 2003 9:23 AM
Wow. How do you even manage to STACK with ONE train in operation? That is really sad.
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Sunday, March 23, 2003 9:23 AM
RRv almost never runs 3 trains, and when they do- look for loads of stacking. I give them props for making the attempt, but it only improves dispatched by about 5 seconds. Theres only a 10 second window between the 1st train being dispatched and the 3rd coming into the brakes.
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Sunday, March 23, 2003 9:26 AM
Serial Thriller at SFWoA has 10 rows on their train, but T2 only had seven if I remember correctly. That's kind of odd.
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Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:36 AM
Removing rows from the SLCs is a common practice to improve on the horrible headbanging and shaking. This lowers the already low-capcity even more.

(I´ve never ridden CHANG, but it looks absolutely gorgeous,)

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Sunday, March 23, 2003 11:14 AM
The only time I've ever been to SFKK, Chang was running two trains... it was later in the evening on a Saturday, and we had almost walk-on rides.. I was thrilled because we ended up getting about 15 rides. It's my favorite standup.

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Sunday, March 23, 2003 12:38 PM
Actually Kristin, as the first US SLC I believe T2 only had 7 (or was it 8) cars originally. If you notice it also has a slightly different layout when compared to the other SLC's.

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Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:19 PM
I experienced two-train operation last year. I too agree that it's my favorite standup (I have yet to ride Georgia Scorcher or Riddlers Revenge.)
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Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:22 PM
The extra trailing axle on T2 (or any SLC for that matter) is equivalent to the 'extra' trailing axle on any Arrow looping coaster, or the 'extra' leading axle on the B&M stand-up and sit-down coasters.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:59 PM
I have been there on a day when they had two trains on Chang. We still waited about 2 hours, the queue was almost full. Still they were stacking trains like crazy, and there was one breakdown closing Chang for 20 minutes. It was an awesome ride. Was it added when KK was Six Flags or still premier parks??
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Sunday, March 23, 2003 8:07 PM
Does it really make a difference? Premier bought Six Flags and renamed themselves Six Flags. The park never changed hands. But I do belive it was built before the Six Flags merger.

Sorta like the tiny Rio Grande Railroad buying the Massive Southern Pacific and renaming themselves Southern Pacific.

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Sunday, March 23, 2003 8:25 PM
Your right Premier was Six Flags parent company, but premier didnt go around adding B&M's to their parks, just SLC's and Boomerangs, coasterwise.

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Sunday, March 23, 2003 9:03 PM
Premier purchased Kentucky Kingdom in 1997, the year Chang was added. So no, Premier is not responsible for Chang.

-Nate

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Monday, March 24, 2003 7:50 AM
Riddler's Revenge's line moved so fast I was stunned. I am a huge Mantis fan, but RR spanked it in every possible way. It's my favorite stand-up, but I haven't rode Chang yet. I've got a great story about RR's station which I haven't had time to post yet, under Trip Reports. I've worked every single day since I've returned from my SoCal trip on Tuesday evening(3-18).

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