Thursday, July 27, 2000 4:53 PM
I live in the suburbs of Chicago, and I had gone to Six Flags Great America twice before (school). I knew what to expect out of the park. However. my Cleveland native uncle was to come, as well as my good friend from a few blocks away.Living in Cleveland, my uncle got to go to Cedar Point alot (so had I.. on vacations) but he had never been to my home park, so he didn't know what to expect. We got to driving at 8:30 last Sunday morning and off to Gurnee.
We got there at about 9:45, parked, and I used my season pass (and my friend used a ticket I had lying around from an event in which we were supplied tickets, but I didn't need it. I had the pass... Anyway...) to get in. We noticed that Viper, Raging Bull, and Shockwave were all open, and decided to bypass them. The line was too long on RB, Viper squealed like hell (and was running one train.. which was the main reason we bypassed it, and Shockwave is simply a train-wreck. The train kept stopping at the top of the lift, starting, and plodding through the semi-interesting course.
We waited on the bridge to Yankee Harbor (where Batman: The ride is located) and were notified that the bridge wouldn't open until around 10:05. So, in the meantime, I stuck a conversation with a younger park employee (more my age) about future plans. He said that he had no idea. I passed along various rumors about a floorless, mad-cobra, or Boomerang. He then told me that his best guess would to not be a floorless. We came to an agreement that B&M had already supplied three coasters to SFGAm, and there were other parks in the chain that needed them more. Astroworld, Elitch Gardens, and Darien Lake were a few. We thought that if the rumors about the 125 foot limit were true, and SFGAm did ask permission to build to or over that height, they would get a Boomerang, possibly in a package with a mad-cobra (a la Fiesta Texas in 1999). Hey, they are 125', aren't they?
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It was nearing 2:00, so we went to Iron Wolf. They were testing it and a little line had formed in front of the queue. We rode the Fiddler's Fling a few times (I think I got my rib broken. My friend tricked me into sitting on the outside.) watching for te gates to open. TRn we got into the makeshift line and waited. The gates opened, and we waited 15 minutes. The ride is great. By no means as good as Mantis, but still great. I love Mantis' floater drop, but Iron Wolf ain't a pushover in it's own right. We rode that a few more times, went back to Batman for a few more rides, and went back to the Southwest territory around 6:30. Got to Giant Drop and rode that. I still prefer CP's Power Tower drop to Giant Drop. CP's drop is 60 feet taller, and the thing about Intamin free-falls is that there are brakes down the last 2/5 of the tower, giving only 120 feet of free fall to Power Tower's 200 (an educated guess). Got in a night ride on Raging Bull and convinced my friend to let me ride Viper. He chose not to come. GREAT ride. It looks small, but there is LOADS of massive artime. Got off and we walked out of the park.
A great park, but not near the quality of Cedar Point. The friendlness at Cedar Point of the 椀搀攀 漀瀀猀 眀愀猀 爀攀洀愀爀欀愀戀氀攀Ⰰ 愀渀搀 攀瘀攀渀 琀栀攀 䴀愀渀琀椀猀 挀爀攀眀 椀猀 渀椀挀攀爀 愀渀搀 昀愀猀琀攀爀 琀栀愀渀 愀渀礀琀栀椀渀最 愀琀 匀䘀䜀䄀洀 ⠀愀渀搀 䤀✀洀 渀漀琀 猀愀礀椀渀最 琀栀愀琀 琀栀攀 䴀愀渀琀椀猀 挀爀攀眀 椀猀 戀愀搀⸀ 琀栀攀礀 眀攀爀攀 愀 搀攀氀椀最栀琀 琀栀椀猀 礀攀愀爀℀ 䬀甀搀漀猀 琀漀 礀漀甀 最甀礀猀℀⤀ 䠀漀眀攀瘀攀爀Ⰰ 䤀 瀀爀攀昀攀爀 琀栀椀猀 瀀愀爀欀✀猀 挀氀攀渀氀椀渀攀猀猀 愀渀搀 氀愀礀漀甀琀 琀漀 琀栀愀琀 漀昀 匀椀砀 䘀氀愀最猀 伀栀椀漀✀猀Ⰰ 愀氀琀栀漀甀最栀 琀栀攀 挀漀愀猀琀攀爀猀 愀琀 匀䘀伀 愀爀攀 愀 猀氀椀最栀琀 戀椀琀 挀漀漀氀攀爀 愀渀搀 洀漀爀攀 搀椀瘀攀爀猀攀⸀ഀഀഀ ⨀⨀⨀ 吀栀椀猀 瀀漀猀琀 眀愀猀 攀搀椀琀攀搀 戀礀 一漀漀搀氀攀猀 漀渀 㜀⼀㈀㜀⼀㈀ ⸀ ⨀⨀⨀
Friday, July 28, 2000 9:32 AM
Like I've said, I think the Six Flags Parks carry the legacy of their previous owners. Ohio is still the mess that was Geauga Lake when it comes to management, while Great America has some "feel" of the Marriot days (or so I've been told). After visiting a number of Six Flags parks, it's hard to count out the entire chain, but parks like SFO sure don't help their reputation. World-class rides make not a world-class park.
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Saturday, July 29, 2000 6:15 AM
Jeff, I think that is the most on target assement that I have ever heard (read) about the Six Flags chain. It seems to me that many people think all SF parks are like the (imo) crappy former Premier parks (GL, KK, Riverside, AW, etc...), but really, these parks and the 'older' SF parks (SFoG, MM, GAm, etc..) are as different as night and day. I dont think one should have expected Adventure World (for example) to be magically transformed into the greatest park on earth because it is now named Six Flags America. In fact, nothing has changed about the park other than the name. The same people still own the park. That means it will be run in *about* the same way. What I fear is because the management of the other parks (e.g. MM) has changed (actually a couple of years ago) they will begin to suffer from the shotty management displayed at the former "Premier" parks. However, only time will tell. I'll keep my fingers crossed that they dont ruin SFGAm!
Monday, July 31, 2000 11:50 PM
If they ruin SFGAm than I will have to move to Ohio and I dont want to do that. Note to Six Flags. If you ruin your flagship parks than you might as well sell the business to someone who knows what they are doing. (Marriott, please rethink what you did 16 years ago!!!)