SFGAM thoughts

Saturday, April 13, 2002 9:40 PM

SFGAM needs a dark coaster ride. I say gut the IMAX (they are a dime-a-dozen anymore) and put a FOF-style coaster in there.

They also need an S&S launch tower to complement Giant Drop. This would be a good use for the Power Dive location.

I know everybody is speculating that they will put in an X or a SUF clone next year but I expect a surprise along the lines of Xcelerator. Prototype Ride. break alot of accepted conventions.

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Saturday, April 13, 2002 9:54 PM
The inside of the IMAZ idea sounds cool, I wouldn't mind seeing one of those as long as it had lapbars and the S&S idea is cool too somebody at the sfgamonline.com boards awhile ago posted a computer annimated picture on how an S&S could fit into there.

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Sunday, April 14, 2002 10:54 AM
I like the Pictorium, even thought the movies are extremely boring (most of the ime), they are like documentaries, I mean you are at an exciting theme park, you are energetic, and pumped, and you are put to asleep by this movie.Alot of them are deceiving, like once there was a skiing one, and it looked cool, but they spent half the time talking about muscles, and showing parts of the human body , half of my group fell asleep :), i really don't bother anymore. I really wouln't like to put a coaster there, because i like hometown Square, it is one of the only quiet areas of the park. It is so laid back, and calm. Putting a coaster in there, although it may not ruin the look, it will ruin the feel.

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Sunday, April 14, 2002 1:31 PM
Don't mess with the Pictorium. It is a nice place to be able to go when it's unbearably hot (Air conditioning is nice there) or when it rains. Besides, parks need more than just coasters... It's a nice addition to the park.
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Sunday, April 14, 2002 4:58 PM

I'll agree that I'd love to see a dark coaster there, but not at the expense of the IMax. To this day, that is the largest and best IMax I've ever been in, and the only one I visit frequently (The one in Milwaukee can't hold a candle to it).

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Sunday, April 14, 2002 5:42 PM
That picture at the www.sfgamonline.com boards was not of a S&S tower it was a TATK and its really an awsome picture!
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Sunday, April 14, 2002 5:50 PM
IMAX is such a dead technology. It was cool back in the 80's but this is 20 years later and they need to move with the times on this one and tear it down. They probably wont as I heard they made some investment in the theatre for this season.(heard from a VERY reputable source)

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Bob Hansen

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Sunday, April 14, 2002 6:12 PM
ok here's the deal, a park is not ALL about the coasters. Alot of people like the shows. And some movie makers pay for their movie to be played at parks. It is a good way to advertise. Think about it, if you were at a park, and all the rides got shut down due to heavy rain, would everyone leave the park? no, people go see the shows. Especially the guests without a season pass. And the Pictorium at SFGAm is a cool theater, during the hot summer, it is a great place to relax.

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Rob

If the world was perfect, we would have a rollercoaster at every corner.

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Sunday, April 14, 2002 6:25 PM
Thank you Alf is cool.

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Sunday, April 14, 2002 8:31 PM

Kick The Sky said:
IMAX is such a dead technology. It was cool back in the 80's but this is 20 years later and they need to move with the times on this one and tear it down. They probably wont as I heard they made some investment in the theatre for this season.(heard from a VERY reputable source)


I dont know if I would call it dead technology. The one on Navy Pier gets a good crowd and they were just showing Beauty and the Beast which my daughter loved on her school field trip there. If SFGAm plays the right films (ones that make you feel like you are experiencing something), then it is a good thing to keep around.

I will admit the ones they have been showing are pretty boring but the concept of IMAX is still pretty cool.

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Monday, April 15, 2002 6:05 AM
They aren't going to take out the IMAX it's the largest contininuous screen in the World.

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Monday, April 15, 2002 7:12 AM

SFGAMDie Hard,

All IMAX screens are the same size...But as far as IMAX getting "old", why do you think CP took theirs out? The same reason that has been offered up by DaCoasterMan..."Old" and "declining attendance".

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Monday, April 15, 2002 9:49 AM
IMAX is not getting old at all. They update their technology every year along with putting out dozens of new films. It's your theater that is getting old. IMAX just put in the world's most technologicly advanced planitarium aystem at the Chabot Space Center. Now you can't get more advanced than that, it can show you what the sky looked like over 10,000 years ago. Don't tell me that IMAX is getting old. The reason why it's getting old is because Six Flags doesn't update it. Would you rather have Deja Vu or pay 3.6 million dollars for a theater with the most advanced technology(Not to mention staff, maitenance, new films, cleaning, and then you have to actually run it, that's coaster money right there.) SFGAm will not be the park getting the big bucks like they used to be at the top of the chain. Now the main focus will go on SFoG, SFoT, SFGAdv, and SFWoA. Times change, and you guys wont be as much of the B&M/Intiman(basically a well rounded Giovanola park since that's where the Impulse, Stand Up, Inverted, and Hyper Twister came from) that you've been. SFGAm is already a great park and as you said has the total package. Isn't the total package enough DaCoaster Man? This sounds more like greed than a need.
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Monday, April 15, 2002 10:08 AM

While I have stated that the Pictorium is outdated, I also believe that it should be updated with a similar, show based, attraction of some type to keep the same kind of audience occupied that the Pictorium did. If that means putting in an advanced system like Vertigo stated, or replacing it with something else it doesnt matter. All I know is I have gone in there on the busiest of days and that theatre is empty. They show lame films and they get more and more lame each year. Let's face it, a bigger than life Micheal Jordan is not going to impress many people even if it is in the Chicago area.

They should also "revisit" the Dino Island attraction. As far as simulator attractions go, that is the worst I have ever been on.

Lastly as far as SFGAm not getting the big bucks anymore that may not be true. It is a well known fact that SFGAm, SFGAdv, and SFMM are their flagship parks and they will pour dollars into those parks as long as people keep streaming through the turnstiles.

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Monday, April 15, 2002 2:12 PM
I *heard* that Dino Island was returning to the orignal "Space Shuttle America" film...much better IMO! ;)
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Monday, April 15, 2002 2:17 PM

Actually, not all IMAX screens are the same size. The one that used to be at Cedar Point was larger than the one that resides here in Columbus. The Columbus theater is smaller also.

I don't think IMAX is a dead technology either. Personally speaking, I think IMAX 3-D provides the best 3-D I have ever seen.........and I have seen a LOT of 3-D movies. As long as the theaters update their movies, I think IMAX has a long life ahead.

-Sean

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Monday, April 15, 2002 2:26 PM

Kick The Sky said:

While I have stated that the Pictorium is outdated, I also believe that it should be updated with a similar, show based, attraction of some type to keep the same kind of audience occupied that the Pictorium did. If that means putting in an advanced system like Vertigo stated, or replacing it with something else it doesnt matter. All I know is I have gone in there on the busiest of days and that theatre is empty. They show lame films and they get more and more lame each year. Let's face it, a bigger than life Micheal Jordan is not going to impress many people even if it is in the Chicago area.

They should also "revisit" the Dino Island attraction. As far as simulator attractions go, that is the worst I have ever been on.

Lastly as far as SFGAm not getting the big bucks anymore that may not be true. It is a well known fact that SFGAm, SFGAdv, and SFMM are their flagship parks and they will pour dollars into those parks as long as people keep streaming through the turnstiles.

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Bob Hansen

Bolliger/Mabillard for President/VP 2004



Actually, the most money will be going into Six Flags over Georiga and Six Flags over Texas for more than the next decade, as stated by the Six Flags Financial Report. Then they are transforming Enchanted Village into a regional park, La Ronde into a tourist destination, Great Adventure and World of Adventure into resorts. With those four parks plus the big sweep into SFoG and SFoTs' corner there is not a chance that SFGAm is going to get a big slice of the pie. Sure, they will get their rations but that's about it at this point.

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Monday, April 15, 2002 3:33 PM
Anybody hear anything yet on SFGAms own entertainment Village? At no Coaster Con Michelle was saying they were still waiting for SF Inc. to decide if they wanted to give them the money or not.

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Monday, April 15, 2002 4:05 PM

Kick The Sky said:

Lastly as far as SFGAm not getting the big bucks anymore that may not be true. It is a well known fact that SFGAm, SFGAdv, and SFMM are their flagship parks and they will pour dollars into those parks as long as people keep streaming through the turnstiles.

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Bob Hansen

Bolliger/Mabillard for President/VP 2004

Thank you. These people act like they know everything, when they heard it from someones gradmas uncles daughters boyfriends grandsons cousin. anyways, the pattern is there. SFGADV SFMM and SFGAM are the parks that have gotten the big rides over the past 15- 20 years, and there is no reason for that to stop now. They are the three with the arrow mega loopers, the first three B:TR's. Also, they all have gotten a lot of coasters in the past years, and will continue to do so.


*** This post was edited by Drop208 on 4/15/2002. ***

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Monday, April 15, 2002 6:03 PM
Thanks I must have missed that for some strange reason I thought that it said something about all those other parks and I htink SFOT and SFOG getting all those new expansions and SFGAm just getting regular expansions so I htought I would check but I guess it never said that I dont knwo where I got that from from that post. hmmm

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