SFGAdv Media Announcement Sneak Peak?

While I think this ride will be taller and faster than TTD, lets go out on a limb, they really didn't specify the records. Could it be just in the east? Never said the world. But that's just me.

As for 'failing Six Flags' I think it's time for a regeme change in Six Flags managment, and the only way for that to happen would be for the company to hit the rocks then rise up again. Are some parks run well? Sure, but many others are **** in terms of rides and service. Anyone been to Astroworld, hmmm? That park alone has swarn me off Six Flags for a long time.

At 1:20pm Danny said "Wow, I really can't believe how many people are looking and possibly even *want* Six Flags to fail."

At 1:40pm Danny said "Who said anything about wanting to find people that want SF to fail?"

Good point. The writer for that RideWorld article seemed pretty adament though, I wonder if the information he received contained the words "world record breaking"... "height and speed".

I think he said an announcement is scheduled for Sep 29... should be interesting.

^Confused myself.

The first one is supposed to read like "I'm surprised at the number of people that are expecting Six Flags to fail/ Some of those people sound like they may *want* Six Flags to fail."

The second one is supposed to read "When did I/anyone else say anything about me/them wanting to look for and point out people that want Six Flags to fail".

I'm not sure what's missing or what's confusing other people...

+Danny

Six Flags doesn't mantain the wood coasters that they have to begin with...

Maybe the fact that you didn't write it like that the first time, Danny? ;)

Trying to distract people from the "6 flags suX0rz thu big one!!!11"...

The marketability of "tallest fastest" I think is a good discussion point. It's my opinion anyway that the impact of Dragster didn't even come remotely close to the impact of Millennium Force. I judge that not only the number of satellite trucks parked at the respective media days, but in the brand recognition of the two in the Greater Cleveland area. When they built Millennium Force, everyone knew the name. People knew there was a tall new coaster, but my volleyball kids, their parents, people I worked with, family, few knew the name.

I'm ready to admit I was disappointed with Dragster in terms of what "we" got for "our" money. I see a ride like Hydra and I think, wow, that's gonna be fun! *** Edited 9/20/2004 9:44:46 PM UTC by Jeff***

It made sense in *my* head Moosh, but we know that's not a spot many people are willing to look into. ;)

+Danny

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Rob Ascough said:
for the price that SF is spending on this Intamin monster at their most attended property, they could have built new wood coasters at SFGAdv, SFMM, SFOT, SFAW, SFGAm and SFNO and seen attendande increases at ALL of those parks.

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I think that's quite an assumption to make. You can't just throw in any given ride and guarantee that attendance will rise. Some rides that work for some markets absolutely will not work for others. It becomes a matter of knowing your market and knowing which new additions your public will respond to. Some markets just aren't going to respond to an average-sized wooden coaster.

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Should SF build new wood coasters considering how they maintain their current ones? Now that is an argument within itself.

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I've seen much worse offenders in other chains (Cedar Fair and Paramount, for starters). Meanwhile, Six Flags has a few wooden coasters that seem to be pretty well maintained (SFGAm Viper, Georgia Cyclone, TGE Comet), as they continually rate highly among enthusiasts.

-Nate

Personally, I can't believe so many people *think* they know how SF should spend their money. I also can't believe how many people are saying that the public isn't going to respond to a taller L-TH-B ride when they have no idea if this ride is even going to be simply L-TH-B. I also, can't believe that people still argue that nobody wants to ride a shorter version of TTD (as in ride time) when it's quite obvious that this ride is not 2480ft. I also can't believe that people think there will be no media coverage because they already blew their wad on TTD. People this is NY/Philly...this will be a big story on all the MAJOR news stations around here. Who cares if people in Arizona hear about this ride? GADV has more than enough people to draw from around here. Anything else is a bonus.

And finally, I can't believe I actually read half of these posts.

Believe it. :)

I think its going to be a good investment whether it runs or not. It only took 2 seasons to make back the 18million they paid for the chiller and that thing has'nt ran right since they put it in. We all know CP is the best but 99% of the GPon the eastcoast never even heard of it. Lets face it Cleveland is no New York city. It takes cleveland 10 yrs. to get the amount of visitors that NYC gets in one. Not to mention the whole east coast. I've been to CP 5 times in the last 2 yrs and still haven't rode TTD (always down everytime) but I still keep going and its a 10hr drive, but SFGradv is only 2:45. I go to SFGradv at least 4 times during the season.

I think you would be surprised over how many people do know of CP here on the east coast. I live in MA and know many who have been to CP. Most people assume here that sense it's so far away know one else knows about it so they never mention their trip.

I have been to CP once since 2003 and got to ride TTD, but I feel bad for others who where not as fortunate.

Ajrides- also your theory about population of the east has one other problem. SFMM is next to LA but is going through hard times. So being next to a huge city is not as helpful as you may think. People eventually find out about how bad a park is with an example being MM.

I live in the midwest, and nobody knows what CP is here, I have to take them there and show them =)

For me, a curious thing about this is that the (alleged) ride is being built so soon after TTD.

Its not difficult to believe that Intamin were in negotiation with SF over this while TTD was still being designed, given the lead time on large projects. One has to wonder at what point the decision was made to make the new ride, say, 425ft high...and whether Intamin have just clinched a secret deal to built a 430ft version at a Paramount park in 2006.

As far as the (rumoured) $ 35 million price tag is concerned, it would be kind of amusing to find that CF paid for all the R&D to develop the technology at Intamin (read Xcellerator and TTD), and then SF simply cashed in and built a bigger ride than TTD for half the price using established technology.

I was just there for Coastermania, and from what I can tell a lot of people were there just to ride Dragster. The park really wasn't that crowded, but the bleachers and the area around TTD were pretty filled up. It is a popular ride.

I look forward to visiting SFGr8 ADV to ride their new rocket coaster. It will be one of my first trips of next season. Hopefully they do have the bugs worked out by now, but only time will tell that.

I am anxious for the announcement.

*** Edited 9/21/2004 2:01:37 AM UTC by Coasterfantom2***

panman,

Didn't CP pay $25 mil for Dragster? Then SF's $35 mil for the same type of coaster doesn't seem right, unless, there is some MAJOR theming involved.

tambo,

The figure I used (35 mil) is one I took from some other posts. I really have no idea whether it's accurate or not.

For $35 mil, I hope it will have at least a bunny hill in it as well as the tophat...about a 200ft bunny hill....

SF is spending $25 million at GAdvfor their new coaster.

SF is spending $35 million at GAm for the new waterpark

I don't think it's been confirmed anywhere that SFGAd is spending $25M for the new rocket, has it? I wouldn't be surprised if it's more than that.

Joe "let's see what is said on Sept 29" C.