SFGA or SFNE

Friday, June 20, 2003 5:26 PM
I'm getting ready to plan a trip and I'm not sure where to go because the airfare is the same both places. So would u recomend going to SFGA or SFNE and Lake Compounce. I really want to ride S: ROS and Boulder Dash, but is it worth it just for 2 rides or are there other really good rides in that area, however I can think of Raging Bull and V2 to be the only things that I can't just ride any other time that look good, because I'm only 5 hours away from SFOG so S: UF and B: TR don't really do anything for me. Which do you think would be better.
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Friday, June 20, 2003 6:03 PM
That would be a hard choice to make, I think. They both have a large selection of flat rides (if you like them). GA has Nitro, NE has S:ROS, called the #1 coaster in North America by many. GA has Medusa, GE has Batman the Dark Knight, a much smaller floorless coaster. The woodies are probably better at GE (hope to go there this summer), as anything is better than Rolling Thunder. At GA, even after eliminating S:UF and B:TR, you've still got Skull Mountain, Scream Machine, Mine Train (name?), Blackbeard's Pirate Train, Nitro, Medusa, Viper, Rolling Thunder, and the very kick-ass B&R the Chiller. The crews are very fast and well staffed. They're not that far apart from what I hear, so maybe you could go to both?
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Friday, June 20, 2003 6:09 PM
I was actually referring to SFGAm
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Friday, June 20, 2003 6:28 PM
If talking about SFGAm, then I would DEFINITELY go to SFNE and Lake Compounce. S:ROS is probably the 2nd best steel roller coaster in the US behind MF (well, Dragster for the insane thrills maybe) and blows even Raging Bull out of the water. It combines ejector air with intense helixes and various other twists that leave you breathless and wondering where you are.

Boulder Dash is the best wooden coaster that I've had the luck to experience. The setting is unimaginable as you manage to climb 141 feet without ever being more than 5 feet off the mountain's surface. And the first drop is stunning: good airtime considering it's twisted, and it feels as though you're hands will be torn off by the rocks when you raise them; amazing. The rest of the ride is pure bliss with amazing doses of air while weaving in and out of the trees and rocks.

SFNE has a better supporting cast for S:ROS than LC does for BD. However, LC has very small lines, especially during the week, so BD can be ridden 10 times without even breaking a sweat and still managing to cool off whatever small sweat you might get at the waterpark.

Definitely SFNE and LC.

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Friday, June 20, 2003 6:46 PM
I visited SFNE earlier this summer and was really blown away by their collection of rides, and by the appearance of that park. It's well-themed, well-landscaped, and clean. The only bad thing about the park? SFNE has some of the worst operations I've ever seen. The day I went was rather slow, but there were still half hour waits because the park ran one train on everything. That's right on par with SFKK and SFWoA for worst operations ever. Not a good thing. Even so, SFNE is my third favorite Six Flags park. So if you do go there, I don't think you're going to have a bad time. That said, there are obviously two parks I feel are *better* than SFNE, and those are SFGAdv and SFGAm.

SFGAm is practically a flawless park. The rides are world class, the park is gorgeous and well taken care of, and the operations are awesome. It's a bigger park, with a bigger selection of rides, and even though S:ROS and B:DK are awesome rides, they can't stack up against Viper, Bull, B:TR, S:UF, IW, V2, and AE. There's no water park, but there are water rides. But you'll probably be too busy with the huge selection of rides here (much greater than SFNE) to notice. And if you have access to a car, you could make the drive to IB. Or, you could time your trip with the Wisconsin State Fair and get a ride on the awesome Fabbri Megadrop and the mother of all flat rides - the Mondial Topscan.

In other words, definitely SFGAm.

-Nate

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Friday, June 20, 2003 7:49 PM
I say SFNE...I've never been to the Lake but i've heard good things...I went SFNE yesterday (Read my TR) and the park looks great and I had the best expeirience there yesterday. Superman had a 5 min line...Batman was walk on...It was just great...Cyclone is the most intense woodie i've been on and its running crazy...Go to SFNE...And try to go to Canobie..

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Friday, June 20, 2003 8:51 PM
SFGAm for two reasons:

- Viper

- AE backwards

That's if you like wood of course.

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Friday, June 20, 2003 9:18 PM
Wow, just reading this thread I'm getting excited for my SFNE trip. I went to SFGAm last year and was very very impressed with the park but you guys are making SFNE out to sound fantastic. I can't wait to ride S:ROS.
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Friday, June 20, 2003 10:05 PM
Raging Bull. Back Right. Bliss.


Then again, I've never been to SFNE, so I'm a bit biased - but I doubt you'll be able to not enjoy a trip to SFGAm, so it'd be worth a shot.

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Saturday, June 21, 2003 12:03 AM
CoasterZak, don't get so excited for your SFNE trip yet. You will *not* find the operations you witnessed at SFGAm. In fact, prepare yourself to be frustrated with SFNE. No matter how long the lines, there's going to be one-train operation. And crews are *still* slow as heck. The rides are great, the park is nice, but just don't make it up to be one of the "great two" Six Flags parks (that is, SFGAm and SFGAdv).

-Nate

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Saturday, June 21, 2003 4:32 AM

coasterdude318 said:
CoasterZak, don't get so excited for your SFNE trip yet. You will *not* find the operations you witnessed at SFGAm. In fact, prepare yourself to be frustrated with SFNE. No matter how long the lines, there's going to be one-train operation. And crews are *still* slow as heck. The rides are great, the park is nice, but just don't make it up to be one of the "great two" Six Flags parks (that is, SFGAm and SFGAdv).

-Nate


SFNE only runs one train operation on slower days or in the spring and fall. But now that summer has kicked in they will be running two train operation now. Well, exept maybe for Cyclone which doesn't make sense.

SFNE may not be one of the two great SF Parks but it has S: RoS, Batman: DK, Cyclone, and a great selection of flat rides.

I'd say to go to SFNE and LC just because you've already been to SFGAM. You just have to expirience S : RoS!

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Saturday, June 21, 2003 6:49 AM
SupermanROS13, it's a tough decision. Superman at New England is truly phenomenal, certainly better than the other layout and far ahead of Bull and Millennium.

I have never been to Lake Compounce, but would absolutely love to go.

Great America will be pretty busy after July 4th, on the weekends it gets packed (hour+ waits for pretty much all the coasters), you should take that into account as well.

Like I said, it's a very tough decision .. one that may be made easier by asking yourself which of the two locations you're more likely to be able to visit in the near future. If you think you'll have another chance to head to New England, then do Great America first.

On the bright side: where-ever you choose, you will have an awesome time.

Cam.

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Sunday, June 22, 2003 9:28 PM
Ok, i guess i have to put in my two cents here. Having been to both parks, i hope i can give you some insight.

I've been on many world-class rides, and I still find myself getting off all of them and saying "that was good, but it wasn't Superman." I'm referring of course to S:ROS at SFNE. It has more airtime than MF, a more sophisticated layout than Nitro or Magnum, and consistent speed thanks to no brakes on the entire ride (unlike Bull). It's never been a question that it is my favorite coaster, and even if i didn't live in MA, i would still travel great distances to ride it at least once a year.

As for the rest of SFNE - well, it certainly doesn't have that "superpark" feel that you get from parks like CP, SFGAdv, and SFGAm. There's only 6 "adult" coasters. However, on the plus side it's usually not too crowded unless you're there on a weekend, so you can easily ride them all in half a day. The flats are good, and unique to most SF parks, and the scenery is very new and freshly landscaped, so the park has a pretty clean and modern feel.

In the wood category, both parks are equal IMO. Viper is an excellent ride, well deserving of the praise it gets, although i wasn't that impressed with AE - even backwards it's a mediocre woodie with a predictable layout and minimal airtime. As for SFNE, i like to think of Cyclone as the "black sheep" of woodies. It's layout doesn't seem to be thought out too well, and as a result is extremely violent with transitions that no other woodie would dare attempt. Truly a "white-knuckle" experience. Thunderbolt is cute, and worth a ride if there's no line, but nothing to write home about.

If steel is your thing, SFGAm definitely has the advantage. Despite S:ROS's dominance, SFNE doesn't have much else you haven't seen before. Thank god we have a Beemer or else the Vekoma clones would be the only backup steel in the park. SFGAm has all kinds of steel; old: Demon (possibly the most enjoyable Arrow looper left), Whizzer, and the best Batman: TR; and of course the newer gems: Deja Vu, V2, and S: UF. Much more variety; you could easily spend two days just on the coasters alone!

I think two factors would skew my decision if i were you:

A) the new waterpark at SFNE. It's big enough now that you can easily spend a whole day there; has all the classic features (wave pool, lazy river, speed slides, tube slides) plus the Tornado (which is similar to Holiday World's "Zinga."); and some crazy looking new slides that i've yet to ride.

B), Boulder Dash. Although i've never been, I can only imagine the ride lives up to it's hype. However, the rest of LC probably doesn't, so make it a day trip.

So obviously i've made a pretty strong case to visit SFNE/LC, which i'll admit is fairly biased because i live closer to them. Honestly, if i had to choose, i'd pick Great America because it's still foreign to me, and therefore more "exciting." But can i honestly say which i'd choose if they were both equidistant to me? Nope. That's for you to decide...

~me

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Sunday, June 22, 2003 10:23 PM
Just a minor thing, but SFNE's Superman *does* have a trim brake just before the final bunnyhops to the station. It doesn't affect the ride any as far as I can tell, but it *is* there (http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery628.htm?Picture=6 - left-hand side of the picture).

-Nate

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Sunday, June 22, 2003 10:24 PM
SFNE & LC.

Lake Compounce became one of my favorite parks with just one visit and SFNE is still the best overall SF park of the six I've been to. S:ROS and Boulder Dash alone make it a worth it to me. Two of my top 4 coasters right there.

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Monday, June 23, 2003 8:07 AM

DON'T GO TO SFGAm we do not need bigger crowds! JK. I would reccomend a trip to SFNE over SFGAm anyday. SFGAm is my home park so i see it differently but the hotels around the park and not good and the park it's self is good, yet ridiculously expensive. If you need to make a choice choose SFNE because the Bull is not Equal to S:ROS and V2 is not worth a 12 hour drive. Come in 2005 *wink**wink*
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Monday, June 23, 2003 8:09 AM

Oh yeah if you do decide to go to Great America I reccomend buying the Fastlane pass if you are only gonna be there on the weekend. Otherwise you will have a hour wait for the bull in 2 train operation thanks to Fastlane! Also money saving tip is to not buying food in the park but instead walk the 3/4 of a mile from the park gate to the Burger King across the street. Enjoy your trip.
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Monday, June 23, 2003 10:41 AM
Raging Bull ran three trains this weekend. Also, I don't know what your deal is with the hotels surrounding SFGAm, but Gurnee is a nice city and there are plenty of decent to very nice hotels.

I still stand by visiting SFGAm simply because it's a better park and there's more to do. Yes, S:ROS is amazing and so is B:DK, but what do you do after that? SFGAm has a heck of a lot more solid rides. Plus, the operations are so much better than SFNE it's not even funny. As an example, I visitied SFNE on a day when the waits were half hour on everything because they ran one train. At SFGAm a week later, the park was *empty* yet they still ran two trains on everything (except V2 of course). That's my kind of park.

Additionally, SFNE is absolutely the most expensive SF park I've ever been to (in terms of food and such). The food selection is awful, and far more overpriced than anywhere else. It's a difficult choice when you throw in Lake Compounce, but like I said - there are parks/places you could throw in to your SFGAm visit too. The WI State Fair (one hour from SFGAm) is July 31-August 10.

-Nate

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Monday, June 23, 2003 1:42 PM
I would also say SFNE because Hurricane Harbor is free.

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Monday, June 23, 2003 4:22 PM

coasterdude318 said:
Raging Bull ran three trains this weekend. Also, I don't know what your deal is with the hotels surrounding SFGAm, but Gurnee is a nice city and there are plenty of decent to very nice hotels.

I still stand by visiting SFGAm simply because it's a better park and there's more to do. Yes, S:ROS is amazing and so is B:DK, but what do you do after that? SFGAm has a heck of a lot more solid rides. Plus, the operations are so much better than SFNE it's not even funny. As an example, I visitied SFNE on a day when the waits were half hour on everything because they ran one train. At SFGAm a week later, the park was *empty* yet they still ran two trains on everything (except V2 of course). That's my kind of park.

Additionally, SFNE is absolutely the most expensive SF park I've ever been to (in terms of food and such). The food selection is awful, and far more overpriced than anywhere else. It's a difficult choice when you throw in Lake Compounce, but like I said - there are parks/places you could throw in to your SFGAm visit too. The WI State Fair (one hour from SFGAm) is July 31-August 10.

-Nate


Have you only been to SFNE once? You can't say that SFNE has the worst operations ever based on one decision. The times that I've been to the park they have had two trains on the coasters that can have two trains except for Cyclone. The ride-ops were definately hauling their butss off and even used the loud speaker to keep the guests excited and lively.

I'm not saying that you should go to SFNE instead of SFGA, I'm just telling you that from what I've experienced the park's opertaions are pretty good.

Note: Superman is worth a trip by itself.

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