Saturday, August 13, 2005 12:33 AM
I would like to know which park, Darien Lake or Canada's Wonderland, would prefer better. I think that Six Flags is better. Wonderland is focused on building movie themed rides, but Six Flags is focused on building big thrilling roller coasters. The pre-1994 roller coasters at Wonderland are good, but Darien Lake has really big coasters, like SROS, and the Predator. So, share your opinions on both parks.
Saturday, August 13, 2005 12:45 AM
Versus threads are not allowed here. You agreed to that when you signed up and read the ToS. Or maybe you didn't read the ToS.
Regardless, go read my posts in This thread for pointers on posting. And then go read the Terms of Service mentioned in there and here. *** Edited 8/13/2005 4:48:08 AM UTC by TeknoScorpion***
Saturday, August 13, 2005 1:08 AM
Wonderland is a better park period. There is no comparison. Yes Darien Lake has Superman which is a great coaster, but it takes more then one coaster to make a park. In my opinion I prefer Wonderland, not to mention I don't mind seeing other people when I go to an amusement park.
It is safe to say im sure that the only edge Darien Lake has on Wonderland is that it is consitently dead, combine that with one train operations and well we can all see what im getting at. Not to mention the fact that both parks have a SLC and a Boomerang. Also Superman, which is in my opinion to only thing there worth making a special trip for has awful loading times, even worse then Millennium Force from what I saw last month.
We visited once a few years ago and after sitting stuck on the Superman lift for 2 hours (which was no big deal, actually kind of fun) I swore to never return. It was not the breakdown that made me not want to return but operations in general.
Although the insanely low price for Ozzfest tickets were tempting enough to get me back there this year I still left the park rather disappointed. Six Flags really needs to put some money into this park in my opinion, selling the gate at $25CAN is a direct reflection of their attendence, or lack of.
It is almost depressing to see a park with so much potential in the state that it is in. Also im not one of those people complaining that my home park never gets anything, as Darien Lake is not my home park, Cedar Point is.
Denis not to be rude either, as you have given me a chance to vent about Darien Lake but VS threads are getting a little old. Even attempting to compare a Paramount property to a Six Flags property is like comparing Jessica Simpson to Courtney Love, one is beautiful and fresh and the other is just decaying and slowly destroying itself. Although im glad to see this side of the border getting a little attention on here.
Saturday, August 13, 2005 1:23 AM
So you consider Predator a really big coaster? It's only 5 ft. taller than Mighty Canadian Mindbuster, which is over 400 ft. longer than Predator. Not too much difference in the numbers.
I also find it amusing that you seem annoyed that Paramount (a movie company) actually names and themes it's coasters after it's movies. Yet for some reason you don't seem to have a problem with a chain that names every other coaster Batman or Superman. 6 in one hand, half dozen in the other as far as I'm concerned. At least Paramount themes it's rides, SFI has a few themed rides but for the most part they just slap the Batman logo or the big S up there and call it good.
I know I just contributed to a vs. thread, but it was for the sake of showing you that your comparisons were stupid.
Saturday, August 13, 2005 2:40 AM
Wonderland is a better park period. There is no comparison.
I checked the profile and *gasp* you are from Toronto. What a suprise.
Even attempting to compare a Paramount property to a Six Flags property is like comparing Jessica Simpson to Courtney Love, one is beautiful and fresh and the other is just decaying and slowly destroying itself. Although im glad to see this side of the border getting a little attention on here.
Hmm, I see it quite the opposite. I thought Wonderland was rapidly decaying with its old, poorly maintained coasters (especially the woodies) while Six Flags is on the rebound. Out of the four SF's I have been to this year, two of them are repeat visits in which the park was better than the previous visit and two of them were first visits that ended up being much better than I had read about over the years, so they seem to be improving.
I dont know when you last went to Darien Lake but I've been three times: '98, '04 and this year, and this year there was a dramaitc improvement. The park was crowded, two trains on Superman with a wait of about 20-30 mins because of decent operations. I didn't see any flats closed (unlike previous visits) except for a breakdown on the Twister. I dont know what you see in Wonderland, I saw it as a past-its-prime theme park in desperate need of some attention. *** Edited 8/13/2005 6:42:27 AM UTC by Jophish***
Saturday, August 13, 2005 4:49 AM
Oh wait *gasp* Ontario is not in Toronto, Toronto is in Ontario which is a rather large province. Actually I live much much closer to Cedar Point which is my home park and attend Six Flags Great America more then I do Wonderland. Looking out my patio window right now I can see the U.S. right across the St.Clair river, no place in my profile does it say I live in Toronto.
I would hardly say Wonderland is decaying or in need of attention. Wonderland has recived a majour new ride every year for the last little while and never went too long in the past without getting something. Darien Lake has probally seen about one tenth of the investment wonderland has in recent years. You can harldy refer to any of the rides at Wonderland as old. Wonderland itself was built in 1981.
Poorly maintained? It seems like everytime I visit Wonderland all of their coasters are in operation. Not to mention they have what I would consider one of if not the best suspended coaster in North America. Everything right down to the flower beds, fountains, and food services is in tip top shape in my opinion.
I have never been to a Six Flags property and left all that impressed with the exception of Great America and Great Adventure. Although I have never been to PKD I have yet to leave any Paramount park with a bitter taste in my mouth. Actually I have never really had anything to say about them that wasn't positive.
Agreed the wood needs some work but if my memory serves me correctly, which it does Predator was nothing to write home about. Definatly not top ten material in my opinion. With that mentality Cedar Point must bite too because Mean Streak needs attention, heck lets throw Kings Island in there too.
Had you retained the majourity of my previous post you would have seen that the last time I was at Darien Lake was a month ago. Attendence that day was still not comparable to the average crowds at Wonderland, and Darien Lake was host to OzzFest that day. Wonderlands admission charge is twice as much as Darien Lake, and it's still packed in comparision.
I wouldn't consider myself a fanboy of any particular park or chain, I just love amusement parks. If I had to say I was a fanboy of any park it would have to be Cedar Point. Six Flags may have had some improvement this year but they are in need of alot more.
Wonderland also plays host the one of the worlds best collection of flat rides. As an amusement park it has to be one of the most appealing to look at. Aside from a little bit of trash at the top of the mountain from Vortex passengers the park is exceptionally clean. *** Edited 8/13/2005 8:56:29 AM UTC by Cypr3ss***
Saturday, August 13, 2005 1:02 PM
PCW is probably better. Superman is the number one coaster out of both parks....but PCW has more newer good ones as well as older. Viper is the second best one at Darien Lake....and it's sad when your second best coaster is an old Arrow Looper. I don't think anyone even cares about Dragon Fire....there's so much else to do.
Saturday, August 13, 2005 1:23 PM
Blah blah blah, my park is better than your park...blah blah blah. We can all see why Jeffbanned Vs. threads, no?
Saturday, August 13, 2005 1:32 PM
Peabody, your just upset because the parks in question are better then your new homepark. ;)
Saturday, August 13, 2005 2:21 PM
I have an idea for a new bumper sticker......
"My homepark can beat up your homepark!"
Actually, I like that. I need a sig.......
*** Edited 8/13/2005 6:24:41 PM UTC by coasterqueenTRN***
Saturday, August 13, 2005 2:27 PM
Incedentalist...lol yeah. Just about anybody's home park is better than my home park! :) I went once this year because it was free. Rode 3 things and then got the hell outa there!
Saturday, August 13, 2005 3:27 PM
I will *not* return to SFDL without calling first to ensyure that RoS is operating...having that *monster* down would give me NO reason whatsoever to go back...
PCW, I want to get back there already....even though there really aren't any stand-out coasters...
Can we start a new topic, n00bs vs. TOS? :)
Saturday, August 13, 2005 4:16 PM
Wonderland, no question about it. Darien Lake makes me sick they are so cheap. They have the potential to compete with Cedar Point with all that land available in the back of the park. Of course I'm speaking mainly of coasters (200 ft. + steel or 150 ft. woodie; no more "baby" ones). Unfortunately all they're concerned with is water attractions for the last 5 or so years which is funny cause the weather for those is usually good for 1/2 of the season anyway. Roller coasters are what's gonna bring people from hundreds of miles away; not water rides. When was the last coaster at Darien??? Six Flags should stop worrying about coasters at Magic Mountain and add some to other parks! But why bother, like someone above said, they'll probably run one coaster at a time anyway. I'm from Buffalo and I go to C.P. once a year.....and that's more than I go to Darien.......
Saturday, August 13, 2005 4:30 PM
Really? Is that your expert opinion? Because it looks like attendance is going to be up
at SFDL this year, and what did they add? One of those stupid water rides nobody is going to come to the park for. Oops.
Saturday, August 13, 2005 4:48 PM
You're missing my point of a "major" attraction. Come on, You're the "coaster dude" right??? Well, I guess you are right cause I can't wait for next years' new attractions............The "dueling log ride" and the lazy river!!!
Saturday, August 13, 2005 4:50 PM
No, I didn't miss your point. I shot it down.
Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:04 PM
His point was "blah blah blah....my home park is better than yours"
Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:07 PM
I wish I had a home park :(.
Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:35 PM
You will soon, Clint. :-)
Sunday, August 14, 2005 7:56 PM
Well, the PCW boomerang is older than the SFDL one. Boomerang Coast to Coaster was much more comfortable than PCW Bat, because Coast to Coaster has the new Vecoma train while The Bat has the old arrow train that was taken out of Dragon Fire. SFDL's Viper, an Arrow Looper, is actually good. It may be old, but is still an enjoyable ride. That goes to Starchaser . PCW's Dragon Fire isn't popular at all. On www.themeparkinsider.com
, Dragon Fire was among the worst rated roller coasters in the world. Another good thing about Darien Lake is that it's Mind Eraser, a SLC, actually has a lower minimum height requirement, 52 , and a higher maximum height requirement, 80. PCW's Top Gun has a minimum of 54 and a maximum of 78. And the wait for Top Gun is sometimes up to 1 1/2 hours. SFDL's Mind Eraser wait is usually short, because SROS gets most of the attention. *** Edited 8/15/2005 3:11:43 AM UTC by denis12345***