SFDL 8/8/02

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Sunday, August 11, 2002 11:04 PM

On they way home we stopped here for 3 hours. The park was crowded but we were still able to get everything done with multiple rides on SROS.

Superman: Ride of Steel (Intamin Hyper)-This ride sucks, well compared to the New England version. I was expecting some massive SFNE style air on the 2nd hill but to my surprise did not get much. The helix was all right but the long stretch of straight track before the 3rd is just flat out boring. It's seemed like they were trying to let you feel the speed there but to me it still seemed slow. The 3rd hill is the best part of the ride but it's just a taste of what the other one has to offer. I liked the little turning bunny hop and the finish was OK. It's a good ride though and a great 1st attempt for Intamin in the hyper business (A-)

Predator (Summer and Dinn Masterpiece)- I knew we were in for pain when I saw the 2nd train laying around in pieces while our train was bouncing up and down on it's way to the lift. This ride hurt my spine from the constant bouncing and shaking of those dumb trailerd PTC trains. What on earth were they thinking? The layout seem like it could have something, but the trains just killed all the speed. Rough, Slow, Boring, and above all painful (F).

Viper (arrow looper)- I liked the approach to the ride in the queue as well as the put-put course surrounded by the ride. The only rough spot was the transitions into and out of the maneuver at the far end. I found the corkscrews to be really smooth and ending around the tunnel to be kind of fun. Much like Nesse I think this is as big as arrow should have gone, this ride was fine with me. (B)

We also did Boomerang and Mind Eraser. I liked the location of Mind Eraser but they really need to chlorinate that lake.

Capacity-Everything but Predator was running at max capacity. Dispatch Intervals weren't amazing but they got the job done. The SROS crew was on with minimal stacking and half the time was rolling them right in. It's crazy what happens when you open the gates right away. They need to go to New England and show them how to operate their ride. (B)

Theming/Atmosphere-The park was clean and had some nicer landscaping. (B+)

Operations-Staff was indifferent but wasn't rude. Prices seemed better than most other SF parks (B)

Overall-While the coaster weren't amazing It was still a fun park and we had a trouble free time. Another well operated SF park, (B+).

Monday, August 12, 2002 6:47 AM

Why is it that so many people compare the S:RoS's at SFDL and SFA to the one at SFNE? From what can see from photos of the SFNE version, about the only thing that it shares with the other two by that name are just that ... the name.

All are Intamin Hypers, all are at SF parks, all have the same name, all have the same trains, but that appears to be where it ends.

IF SF would have names them something different, would the comparrisons be made as much?

Kind of hard to take a post as objective if a park or coaster name is part of the "user name"

Monday, August 12, 2002 6:58 AM
I was at the park that day as well. As for the pain on Predator, part of it is due to the seat belts that were installed just last year. I've found that the only place where it is any good anymore is up front, which was an extra 4 to 6 train wait on that day. That ride has just gotten worse and worse in the last couple years. As for crowds, it was the day after a big christian festival and there seemed to be a lot of people who stayed an extra day.
Monday, August 12, 2002 7:04 AM
I totally agree with Slfake this is getting sooooo tired how people try to compare this s:ros to Sfne s:ros it is not the same ride.

If this ride sucked so bad it would have never ranked #1 and it still would never rank as high as it does now.

I do agree with the predator being ruff and all but what's up with the comparisons?

*** This post was edited by darienlakefan on 8/12/2002. ***

Monday, August 12, 2002 8:15 AM

Why the hell wouldn't someone compare 2 coasters of the same type made by the same company and even with the same name?

Of course they are different rides, but so what? Magnum and S:ROS NE and Steel Force are all different rides too but they CAN be compared because they are all hypers. Just about everybody has an opinion of which coasters they like more than some other coasters.

So to answer your question; YES! they would be compared if they had different names. Why get bent out of shape about it?

Monday, August 12, 2002 9:26 AM

Ah, but read what I said... "Would they be compared as much..." I didn't say they would not be compared... I just wondered if the direct comparrison would be made as much as it is now.

Then again, I don't go around comparring coasters and labeling some as "sucking" simply because I like another coaster better. I judge each on their own merit. Personally, given the chance between the SFA or SFDL version of S:RoS and BGW's Apollo's Chariot, I would take Apollo's Chariot. However, because I happen to like that one better doesn't mean I feek the need to "tear down" S:RoS (very good coasters in their own right).

Kind of hard to take a post as objective if a park or coaster name is part of the "user name"

Monday, August 12, 2002 10:32 AM

Yes, it is a good coaster, I never would wan't to Tear it down. I should haves said "pales in comparison," but after riding a coaster the day before with the same "feel" it was hard not to compare and left disappointed when it did not deliver. There actually is several similarities between the two, Most notably the finishes are almost the same. This one reminded me of Millennium Force as well with it's speed sections.

Did I mention I liked the park more than SFNE? :)

Monday, August 12, 2002 10:39 AM
I went to sfdl for the first time august 10th and i got to tell you I loved Superman, i thought it was great. The park was very clean and needed a couple of more attractions to get up their with the other sf parks, the atmosphere was also very good

millenium force is 310 feet high and 80 degrees, hold on, im getting veclemt, talk amongst yourself, i'll give you a topic, Kings Island is neither the kings nor an island discuss

Monday, August 12, 2002 10:40 AM

By the way, my "Tear it down" was not in reference to removing the coaster, but rather "tear down its reputation".

Bad choice of words on my part.

Kind of hard to take a post as objective if a park or coaster name is part of the "user name"

Monday, August 12, 2002 3:29 PM

what were the waits like?

This park should have never been branded a Six Flags. They shouldve built it up to what a Six Flags park should be for 5 years, then brand it. It almost feels Six Flags just slaps stickers on parks just to say they have a Six Flags park in a ceartin area.

Monday, August 12, 2002 7:24 PM

Darien Lake was actually built up quite dramatically in the 2-3 years before it became an SF park. The park did receive three coasters, albeit two Vekoma clones and an indoor ride which was moved to make way for the batman show, a nice new kiddie section, and a large water park expansion including a wave pool and water playground. This was all a big deal considering the park hadn't received any new coasters since 1990.


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