I think everyone is forgetting that it was Burke's regime that closed AstroWorld. I have every reason to believe that they fully intended to re-assemble all the coasters that were moved, including the standup. Shortly after AstroWorld closed, Snyder and Red Zone took over Six Flags and it was Snyder's new regime that sold off several of the parks including Darien, and that sale included the dismantled coaster on the property. So it's now two owners later and the coaster has never been reassembled. You can't expect anyone to beleive the coaster was moved two owners ago just to dump it on a park that was expected to be sold. I don't beleive Burke & Company had any plans to sell Darien, and I don't think the people in the Buffalo area who are telling you these things have any idea what they are talking about.
Agreed, and that was my point. No matter what anyone says, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever to move a ride across the country with no intention of reassembling it (not to mention purposely damaging it in order to have some sort of reasoning for letting it rot, as if "we changed our mind" wasn't enough).
From what I heard, Darien looked into repairing or replacing the piece(s) that AstroWorld dropped during disassembly, plus the cost of reassembling the coaster and decided it just wasn't worth the money to put it up. I also heard that Zamperla offered them a very good deal and the new MotoCoaster cost less than what they would have spent to reinstall a 22 year-old standup.
I can't say that I blame them, and I too don't understand the need for all these crazy and elaborate stories concerning an old Intamin/Giovanola standup. The new owners looked into it and decided it's not worth it and they don't want it--plain and simple.Last edited by Jeffrey Seifert, Wednesday, January 7, 2009 12:03 PM
^But that does beg the question - "if you're NOT putting the ride back up, why not sell the steel track to the recyclers"? I mean, the trains might have some use for parts for other stand-ups (not sure how similar they are to the "current" stand-up trains)...but the trackage....is junk steel at this point.
That I can't answer. Perhaps they do want to put it up eventually, but were not willing to make the investment to do so at this time, particularly since a good deal from Zamperla came along, and it got them a quasi-new coaster quickly, and cheaply.
Is the Alpine Sleigh the ride that appeared in Beverly Hills Cop 3? It looks like it but I know the outdoor scenes were filmed at PGA. Were there more than one ride like it?
Beverly Hill Cop III was filmed at Great America in CA. Alpine Sleigh closed long before the movie came out.
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Was that an actual dark ride at great america?
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
The ride in BHCIII was not an actual ride and never existed in any park. Those scenes were filmed on a movie soundstage in Los Angeles. Only the exterior shots will filmed at Great America in Santa Clara.
The other thing I never understood, was how can something so easily damaged in shipment?Unless the truck rolls over, that steel is pretty strong, even if you bend part of it by lifting it, you can always cut and weld.
"Damaged in shipment" to me really means "Not worth putting back up"Im glad I got to go to Astroworld, even though it was only once.Last edited by john peck, Monday, January 26, 2009 11:49 AM
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