SFAW New Ride Guess
Once a park has proved that the double spiraling impulses can run without problem for a full season, then I think you may see some interest in people buying them, but not before then.
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Fav Steel: Millenium Force Fav Wood: Viper
If an impulse will run reliably in consistantly 100 degree summers, one could feasibly displace Ultra Twister - but it's not happening for the 2003 season. UT rarely gets much of a line, but it's so slow loading and low-capacity that there's almost always a wait.
Batman's not really any rougher than Ultra Twister, and it's one of the more popular coasters in the park. They won't remove it unless they're really going to put in something new and big (also not happening for 03). Ride in the front to minimize headbanging, anyway.
Believe it or not, they took the enthusiasts view as a consideration whether or not to take Shockwave which was offered. When not even the coaster dorks sounded excited (even vehemently opposed), it gave them some pause.
Why is everybody under the impression that impulses are CHEAP? Affordable, yes, cheap, no, 8.5 million dollars is quite a hunk of change. People make them sound as if Little A-merrick-a could invest in one and it would do them wonders. I have a feeling that many parks do not want to invest 8.5 million dollars on a straight line coaster (I'm not saying it isn't great because it is.)
Anyway, from the sounds of the size of the plot of land they have to work with, and the comments on SFAW no longer being cheap, I'm not going to get everybody going crazy because I'm completely taking this right off the top of my head, possibly an intamin rocket coaster? I mean, it wouldn't have to be at the scale of Xcelerater to be a good ride.
Oh and btw, it is Texas, they have a long season, I don't think opening in June is a big deal.
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astrofreak said:The spot's a bit too small for a super invertigo, though that would be nice. Too nice...
Hey, I'll trade you our coaster that doesn't work in the cold for your coaster that doesn't work in the heat! ;-)
*Ducks,* as all the other Great America lovers throw whatever's at hand at him. "Hey, hey, it was a joke..."
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Hey, I like Hershey!
On a more serious note, I think you're forgetting the structural differences between B&M and Schwartskopf. The much wider and heavier B&M track requires much larger suports and somewhat larger turning radi. Also, B&M likes to put in a lot of angled supports (perhaps to counteract laterals? Rideman? Anyone?), which would prevent the coaster from using the outer edge of the space. A further point is that Thriller has a lot of "stacked," if you will, track: that is, track exactly above/below parralel track for extended periods of time. Again, B&M support style and track structure make this awkward. In conclusion, my home park has two of the more compact B&M's around (Batman: The Ride and Iron Wolf), and it doesn't look to me like either one of them could fit in Thriller's spot.
It was said by a person in the Amusement business that Zamperla can currently only sell 3 Volare's a year, and that currently (4 or 5 months ago) they had already sold two, only one park has announced theirs (Prater Park). I guess it's a possibility but I don't know if I'd count on it.
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NitroTX31 said:
UHCougar, is that like saying bad sex is better than no sex ? I have to disagree. AW could strongly benefit from dismantling Ultra Twister and putting a dbl spiraling impulse in that space. Its not as though the footprint wouldnt accommodate the ride, and lord knows compared to the other versions of coasters, an impulse is fairly inexpensive. If "NastyWorld" were to get a clue, they would do away with Batman and use that land for either a floorless or a flying coaster. Now before many of you denounce me and say, "There is already a floorless coaster in Texas", let remind you that there will soon be 2 in CA. Why shouldnt TX reap the benefits of cloning ?? Of course a B&M flyer would be preferable since its obvious Fiesta Texas didnt get the bid for it. In all honesty, I have lost my taste for AstroWorld.
No, what I was saying is that I would rather keep BTE and UT if corporate would not give us anything else to replace them. Sure, if they were to be replaced, then ship those bad boys to Jazzland, and bring on the Intamin Impulse and the B&M Flyer.
SFGAMDie HARD said:
Oh and btw, it is Texas, they have a long season, I don't think opening in June is a big deal.
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Yeah, but AW closes full time operations in mid-August. Also, with the holidays coming up, and TT not even all that close to being dismantled, it would be after New Years before a coaster would start being built. (Probably quite a while after New Year since track is not even showing up yet to my knowledge) It probably would not be up and running until late June at the earliest.
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"Standing in line to see the show tonight and there's a light on, heavy glow, by the way I tried to say I'd be there."-The Red Hot Chili Peppers
nasai said:
What happened to Shock/Wave?
....and 'Moosh gets the title of Trouble Boy, eh? I'm not sure, but I've *heard* that it may be going to the back yard of a certain webmaster in the Lone Star State....any guesses?
*** This post was edited by rollergator on 12/4/2002. ***
Gator, that's the most brililiant display of idiocy I've seen in quite some time!
You know they will get what they deserve at SF Astroglide one way or another.
I can't believe we left this thread alone for so long.
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'I want to be a statistic. I want to be masochistic. I want to be a clone.' - Descendents 'Suburban Home'
chris...'Gator...you guys are mental!
According to my sources, Six Flags is still going to place Shock/Wave at two parks. SFA is still a leading candidate for one of the installations and since the height of the coaster would be under 125' they don't need to get the county's approval for it. Other parks I've been told are in the running include two of the chain's non-branded parks: Wyandot Lake and Frontier City.
Still, don't look for Shock/Wave to be installed anywhere in 2003 as S&S/Arrow needs to engineer and manufacture new track to make both circuits complete.
Moosh
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