SFA Superman

Monday, November 18, 2002 4:12 PM

I was wondering why is SROS at SFA in such crummy shape compared to DL's version. I've been on SROS at DL 100s of times and its a year older and yet the paint and track looks way more weared on SFA's version. Also, is it basically the same ride (i know its mirrored) or is one significantly better than the other (I need opinions not arguments)

SFA Version picture from first drop

I can't find an up to date picture of SFDL's version in the front seat but its not nearly as crummy looking.

Why is this weather? care? I mean they are both SF parks so obviously they aren't getting the best care. SFDL's IS in good condition but the paint has faded a bit and the yellow lapbars are sorta peeling but not nearly as bad as what the track looks like on the other S:ROS

As the coasters get bigger so do the queue lines

Monday, November 18, 2002 4:20 PM

SFA's S:ROS didn't appear to have any faded paint on the drop track this year although the lap bars are starting to develop that black color alreadykind of like what tower of doom's seats looked like last season.

If any coaster at SFA needs a new paint job on it's track then it's gotta be Mind Eraser,I mentioned that fact to staff at guest relations back on November 2nd & they did say it got painted during the offseason but that wasn't true at all.

Monday, November 18, 2002 5:22 PM

I noticed the poor shape of the trains and tracks paint as well when I visited the park in September. The paint on the trains appeared to be peeling and the track was faded.

It's a really fun coaster though.

I noticed that Mind Eraser was overdue for repainting also.

Monday, November 18, 2002 5:31 PM
Maybe its due for a reverse repainting so it doesn't stand out so much compared to the other 4 or so in the SF chain.

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Monday, November 18, 2002 5:53 PM

I didn't really pay any attention to the condition of any of the coasters at SFA. Though, by the looks from that picture, it could use some serious help. Looks more Pink then Red...Sad.

I think that pond needs more help then the coaster.


Monday, November 18, 2002 6:01 PM

Out of all the steel coasters there Mind eraser is the most in need of a paint job,better yet it needs to be scrapped all together.

I'm hoping we'll see all of the coasters that need a paint job get one during the offseason,when the rides have terrible paint jobs like Mind eraser does it really sends a message to the guest saying that management really could care less about the maintainence of the rides.

Monday, November 18, 2002 6:47 PM
Sorry Dexter, but the last thing I notice is the paint job on S:ROS. Red seems to be a bad color when it comes to paint. Iron Eagle also suffers from this problem. The DC/Maryland area has been in a severe drought for the last two years, hence, more exposure to the sun. BFSFA, would you have rather had paint on Mind Eraser, or lapbars on Joker's Jinx last year? Let's face it, ME is almost 9 years old (!) and needs to become part of the "new" Six Flags ride rotation program.

By the way, the worst paint job I ever saw was on Lazer at Dorney. You could actually see the old paint coming through all the peeling paint of the new paint job. And the people who did it wound up on a painting contractor magazine.
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Monday, November 18, 2002 6:51 PM

I don't recall the paint looking nearly that faded when I rode SROS at SFA jsut a few weeks ago, but I usually have other things on my mind when I'm ready to head down that first hill. Also I like the airtime better in back, so that's where I usually ride.

Paint condition is a fucntion of a lot of things. The atmospheric conditions are one. A park downwind of DC gets a lot more air pollution that one outside Buffalo. Surface preparation is another factor.

However, most of what I seem to see in Captain Joel's picture is ultraviolet (sunlight) damage to just plain cheap paint. Parks usually use aliphatic enamels to paint coasters. This is pretty cheap stuff as far as paint for steel is concerned. Epoxy with a urethane over coat will both hold it's gloss longer and protect the steel longer. Parks are usually too cheap to buy the better paint though. They tell themselves that they are going to change the color scheme soon so it doesn't make sense to buy good paint.

*** This post was edited by Jim Fisher on 11/18/2002. ***

Monday, November 18, 2002 7:13 PM
Worst Original Paint Job Ever: You guessed it....Deja Vu Sfgam
Monday, November 18, 2002 7:20 PM

the last thing i would call S:ROS is in terrible shape....that thing is one of God's gifts to southern Maryland ;)

and stop being so rough on Mind Eraser, lol

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Monday, November 18, 2002 7:23 PM
S:ROS at SFNE looks fine. And that park is pretty horrid with maintenance. Haven't been to the other 2, but that pic of the one at SFA makes the track look terribly maintained.

Well, at least the ride's great in either case! Let's just hope the maintenance on the paint job doesn't reflect the maintenance on the ride itself - wouldn't it be horrible for SF to ruin some of the best original creations they've installed yet?


Tuesday, November 19, 2002 4:32 AM

I'm hoping we'll see all of the coasters that need a paint job get one during the offseason,when the rides have terrible paint jobs like Mind eraser does it really sends a message to the guest saying that management really could care less about the maintainence of the rides. Complaining about the paint on a coaster to Guest Relations is EXACTLY what give coaster enthusiasts a bad name with parks! It's incessant whining like the above that makes them think we are nothing more than spoiled rotten little whiny children with no lives!

If you want to do them a favor, go to GR early next year and commend them on attempting to run every ride every day! they did that extremely well last year. and THAT shows that maintenance is doing a good job. How many times during the season did you see numerous rides on the closed board like in the past?

It's funny that when the park spends a year correcting the stuff you complained about in the years past, not even a thank you is posted you just move right on to the next complaint!

In my world that's called UNGRATEFUL

SFA should get an award for improved service, in a year when the nearest competition cut back service dramatically.

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 5:06 AM

Many enthusiasts have commented here on how much the quality of the customer service at SFA has improved this year. I've said it before and I'll say it again. "SFA Customer service in 2002 was vastly improved." It was also better most of the other SF parks that I visited this year. Actually the one person I've heard really complain about customer service was a non-enthusiast who went on one of the busiest days of the summer.

Despite some of the comments here, the overall appearance of the paint on SROS is not bad. I do have to agree though that Mind Eraser is starting to look pretty faded.

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:23 AM

Also, the sad fact is that the DC Area tends to have more "Mostly Sunny" days than the Rochester area, exposing the track to a greater amount of sunlight. Anyone who has lived in the Rochester area, especially during the fall and spring months can attest that the weather is quite often overcast. Perhaps this is an explanation.

BTW: werent the tracks for both rides fabricated about the same time? I've heard numerous rumblings that the SFA track sat out on site for several months before getting building approval from PG County.

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:20 PM

Mr fisher,

I had a complaint about the service of the eatery across from the Flying Carousel. The girls behind the counter were not the least bit interested in serving me and I had to interupt their in depth conversation about sex and pop music just to get them to get me some fries from the deep fryier.

I had to ask the girl at the register TWICE to see the manager. She pretended like I wasn't talking to her. When the "Manager" finally arrived I politely told him what my concern was and he gave me excuses and didn't make it right.

On another occasion, the lady snapped at me when I politly asked her why the "rainbow" shaved ice was so much more expiensive than the one flavored shaved ice.

She said something like, "Because people like you hold up the line because you can't decide on a flavor and it takes up too much time to keep adding flavors!"

"Wooohh...Sorry lady. I just asked a question", was my response (in a calm, and once again polite voice).

I consider these two complaints to be very minor, however I still told guest services. I also told them that the ride opps were, for the most part, doing a pretty good job. I still had a GREAT day and will be looking forward to visiting the park sometime in the future.

Now if they could only do something about the crazy traffic on the beltway...

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*** This post was edited by dexter on 11/19/2002. ***

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:28 PM

S:ROS at SFDL has faded paint, but the ride itself is just as good as 1999. The trains still seem in great grand wonderful condition except the lapbars are starting to peel a bit but other than that its fine.

For those of you which have ridden both, which do you prefer and why? (opinions not arguments)

As the coasters get bigger so do the queue lines

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:30 PM

I agree with all of the below:

SFA customer service is vastly improved this past season. I read so many horror stories before I purchased my first season pass this season and outside of one incident (which a thoughtfully worded letter was mailed to the general manager about) I had an excellent season at SFA and look forward to renewing my season pass in the next couple of weeks. In fact, I have wrote and received responses from SFA in the past couple of months telling them they are on the right track and keep up the good work.

With the pollution in the Washington area being so bad, it wouldn't surprise me if some of the tarnished track on S:ROS isn't the result of acid rain and I don't blame SFA for not painting the coaster. Afterall, I'm there to ride a coaster not there to be an artists. Perhaps it some stain left over from someone's lunch after they saw that first drop.

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:33 PM
2Hostyl is correct I live in Rochester,NY and it is always and I mean always overcast. In the summer it is very, very hot in the spring and fall months almost everyday it is cloudy and overcast. If I'am not mistaken we have the second most overcasts skies next to Seattle.

S:ROS @ SFDL has a good paint job but I would take some of the coasters from SFA anyday over that!

Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:01 PM
A)The track came painted directly from the manufacturer as did Mind Eraser and Iron Eagle B) I don't see how the track turning pink means the ride isn't being taken care of. If the color bothers you that bad, put your picture into Photoshop and change it. C) The track pieces most definitely sat out in a field behind Joker's Jinx the year before the installation D) Rumor has it said track pieces were originally intended for a park up north, which is entirely in the realm of possibilities since Darien Lake "stole" our Topspin which sat next to Joker's Jinx E) Would you have the park rent a crane (which I assume is the only way you're going to paint up that high), or would you like new attractions? Sure both would be great, but I'm all for new playtoys. F) Guess what lighting gels burn out the fastest? Red and Blue. There's got to be some reason.
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Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:42 PM
This year was my first visit to SFA, and I thought customer service was marginal. I can't imagine what is was in the past.

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