SFA Fright Fest TR (Starting 10/7/05)

I think Coaster Lover is the only person I know that would enjoy getting stuck on a coaster in the pouring down rain and hopes a coaster vallies while he's on it. :)

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Coasterlover:don't ask you just might get it :) .

I've seen them have to take peeps off Batwing with the seats down before,not an easy feat IMO...as for E-stops I've had a few myself(one on supes about halfway up the lift) but fortunately never had to do a walk down & certainly wouldn't want to.

Makes you wish they'd install a stairway on the left side of superman's lift(the side I'm always on) as one wrong move during an evac like that & it's a long way between you & the ground.

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coasterguts said:
Sirloindude I think you can see Coasterbruh's experience wasn't representative of the majority of others on Saturday.

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How do you know that...maybe im the only one who came here to say something. I experienced long wait times during the early part of the day when the park first open. Now of course the waits wasnt 6 minutes but I feel that a coaster shouldnt be sitting on the brakes unless theres some problem in the station which there wasnt. the wait times are only a fraction of the experience I had. I just think that park can be a whole lot better and no one is gonna complain because everyone who goes is either use to the problem or just dont care. Im still blowed that the ride op sit there and let someone smoke in the station and held a conversation with them...

And I know every employee isnt bad I have had some great ones but they are far and in betweeen. I like the coaster selection at the park and I like the park in general but its those ride ops that really do it for me...

I meant the majority here and let me add, I had the same experience Coasterlover and Colin had as well on Saturday.

Wow...the one day I go out of town and half of CBuzz's membership shows up, lol.

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coasterbruh said:

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coasterguts said:
Sirloindude I think you can see Coasterbruh's experience wasn't representative of the majority of others on Saturday.

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How do you know that...maybe im the only one who came here to say something. I experienced long wait times during the early part of the day when the park first open. Now of course the waits wasnt 6 minutes but I feel that a coaster shouldnt be sitting on the brakes unless theres some problem in the station which there wasnt. the wait times are only a fraction of the experience I had. I just think that park can be a whole lot better and no one is gonna complain because everyone who goes is either use to the problem or just dont care. Im still blowed that the ride op sit there and let someone smoke in the station and held a conversation with them...

And I know every employee isnt bad I have had some great ones but they are far and in betweeen. I like the coaster selection at the park and I like the park in general but its those ride ops that really do it for me...

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I agree,I mean the park has potential to be better than it is but those slow ops just kill the experience...especially on a saturday which is when I usually end up going but there can be exceptions from ride to ride & it varies with the time of day as well.

For soome reason the operations have just gone downhill since 99...the Adventure World staff was just better for some reason(granted they're still hiring in the same age bracket & region) & they for some reason actually cared about the park experience & tried their hardest to really move people through the lines,also maintenance was a helluva lot better on rides overall back then too.

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coasterbruh said:

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coasterguts said:
Sirloindude I think you can see Coasterbruh's experience wasn't representative of the majority of others on Saturday.

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How do you know that...maybe im the only one who came here to say something. I experienced long wait times during the early part of the day when the park first open. Now of course the waits wasnt 6 minutes but I feel that a coaster shouldnt be sitting on the brakes unless theres some problem in the station which there wasnt. the wait times are only a fraction of the experience I had. I just think that park can be a whole lot better and no one is gonna complain because everyone who goes is either use to the problem or just dont care. Im still blowed that the ride op sit there and let someone smoke in the station and held a conversation with them...

And I know every employee isnt bad I have had some great ones but they are far and in betweeen. I like the coaster selection at the park and I like the park in general but its those ride ops that really do it for me...

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sirloindude said:
Wow...the one day I go out of town and half of CBuzz's membership shows up, lol.

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Well, I guess we know why things were running so smoothly now don't we. :)

Don't know for sure if I'll be able to make it tomorrow(darn rain) but I'll see how the forecast turns out.

Anyone see fox morning news today? they were doing an FF promo this morning & were over at Wild one doing some POV's....interestingly enough they load the red train & send it out & while the camera panned out for a shot on the lift they switched to an onboard shot which was clearly done on the blue train,sure was nice to be able to see an entire POV of a familiar coaster on TV for once.

The only thing bad about the shoot was by the time the train approached the helix they switched to a wide shot from just outside the station so you never got to enjoy what to many is the best part of the ride from a POV perspective.

It seems like every other park is getting new rides, and poor old SFA is being ignored in the ride department. I just think that more outsiders would visit SFA if they were to get a huge coaster. But since man of the local kids are the main customers (causing high attendence), SFA has no pressure in adding new coasters. I guess with all this crap going on in the main offices (Snyder and all), SFA is being ignored cuz we are home of the redskins!

eh, SFGAdv is only 3.5 hours away!

What are you talking about?!? If you are thinking "well, all these other parks are announcing their new attractions, but SFA isn't, so I guess SFA isn't getting anything", then you are DEAD wrong. SFA NEVER announces their new attractions until at least February. There's still plenty of time! Add up the rides attractions already announced: El Toro and surrounding area (~$20 million), Goliath @ SFOG and La Ronde (~$38 million), Tatsu (~$20 million), SF's investment in the Hotel at GE ($5 million), and there's still PLENTY left in the $125 million budget. Even look at the additions for 2006 that were revealed in the SEC report (@SFOT, @SFNE, and @SFMW) and as most of those are fairly small additions with possibly parts coming from SFAW, that still leaves PLENTY in the budget. Just keep your cool about SFA until at least February. If you don't have any new info by then, then you can get worried.

I do strongly feel that the next coaster will come in either 2006 or 2007 to SFA, but don't expect anything huge (like a B&M or something). SFA is looking for a ride that will appeal to families. Something that both kids can ride and teens will enjoy. Don't expect a MAJOR coaster for a few more years (possibly the parks 10th anniversary as a SF park in 2009?). I mean, we have a TON of major coasters already, but there is work to do elsewhere in the park.

Thats exactly why I think the park would do great if they added a Pandemonium clone.

I went on sunday seeing as we got rained out saturday & had a somewhat decent experience.

As expected crowds were ligiht until late afternoon/early evening then the park really started to become packed,was anyone there that day by chance when ME got stuck for 5 minutes or so?

If you saw that the orange train was stuck partway out the station & on the lift with the yellow train in the brakes I was on the yellow train/front row waiting for them to reset the darn thing....almost hoping for an evac to occur but darn my luck there was no need for it.

JJ was running,Batwing had two trains going by early evening & they were even announcing which seats weren't working as each train came in....KC is in the early stages of removal as the panels lining the outer edge of the wheel are being removed so who knows what's gonna go there.

Boy did I nearly lose it on rodeo after the ops hit the button again....they were being extra generous in allowing the ride to run not one,but two full cycles.

As far as FF itself goes the theming was pretty good but the music certainly left something to be desired as hardly any halloween music was playing inthe park at all & as of now python is definitely gone leaving a rather large space in it's wake but I doubt that they'll add anything there anytime soon....hopefully I'll be able to make it out to the park saturday for one last blast before the end of the season.

Now don't get your hopes up but word has it Ultra twister MIGHT be coming next season....for once I certainly hope screamscape & others are wrong about this one,I'd much rather have viper,GL or B:TE at SFA than that thing.

SFAmerica, aren't you BatwingFans buddy?

SFA has gotten a new "attraction" each year for the past five years.

2000 Superman
2001 Batwing
2002 New Shows
2003 Penguin's Blizzard River
2004 New Shows
2005 Hurricane Harbor Makeover
2006 ?

I've been over this, SFA doesn't need a new major coaster. Their existing ones aren't running at capacity and aren't being pressed to run at capacity. Hurricane Habor is the only area of the park that needs a new attraction. The slides are running at or near capacity. They need another attraction in that area that will thin the lines out.

And even if there was a new coaster, don't you think we would have already started to see track arrive?

Actually, Colin we probably wouldn't. The track for Superman did begin appearing until after the season was over.

I am not batwingsfan buddy, in a sense I have no relations or recieved any information from him/her. I am just commenting on how, EVER since I was on sixflagsnews.com as FREEFALL, I have been waiting for SFA to announce a huge coaster. I've even worked at SFA and I've heard many complain of how boring OUR Six flags is. It does not matter if SFA has gotten 'new' rides every other year in the past, the problem is how are you going to make your current customers happy while attracting more from elsewhere.

I know that SFA is putting ALLOT of time and effort to make the ambient of the park more welcoming instead of just cramming rides, thus making it into a park of steel. But they need to speed up the process just like they are converting other parks. However, SFA is still a kool park but it would be better and appealing if they get some more rides. LOOK AT IT IN THE CUSTOMERS (whole) PROSPECTIVE, ......deep inside you wish SFA to be more progressive and innovative like SFMM, SFGAm, SFGAd..... The truth is the majority of middle and wealthy class are going to PKD or SFNJ instead of SFA, because they see SFA a crap! (ask any college student, middle class adult, anybody from this area)

I know that I just have to patient but as we know SF seeks for feedback about their parks, and we also know that based on customer's feedback they can make radical changes within a month time frame before the announcement! So, to SFA, if you are getting a new ride it better be hardcore like other parks, (the 'something' new coasterlover is mentioning better not be no damn hand rail or a new sign!)

BTW, what happened to SAM MARKS he always had good connections with that park!

~~pardon my grammar

LOL, coasterlover, I checked your profile on facebook (drew)...and thinking back, we've actually been in same classes at cp! I am pre-med as well! *** Edited 10/27/2005 6:42:48 AM UTC by SFAmerica***

I think a lot of things are up in the air with SF right now and we'll just have to take a wait and see approach. Who knows what 's going to happen with the new owners. We do know one potential owner wants to add more family rides to all of the SF parks. If CF purchases the parks we'll probably see more thrill rides. However, don't you think SFA should get there existing coaster lineup capable of running at capacity from 10:30 am to 10pm every operating day before they add a major new coaster? I would much rather see the park do the same "Ultimate Makeover" they gave the water park to the Nantucket area of the park add a few kids rides and some thrill rides to the area, get the Enterprise working again, add a midway between Superman and Batwing complete with a Full Service Restaurant and complete the loop from Coyote Creek to Batwing and do something to improve customer service before adding another major coaster.

Sorry, I know I posted a wish list but I wanted to make the point there are other projects that need to be done at this park before $10-$15mil is invested in a new coaster.

SFA is boring because PKD, BGW and HP have been around for years, has had one owner at the most two and has been able to add a good mix of attractions as a result. SFA has had essentially three owners, went into bankruptcy once with it's first owner, almost went bankrupt and closed with it's second owner and is currently owned by a company that's on the verge of a hostile takeover and being bankrupt, or at the least sold. I firmly believe SFA hasn't had a owner that could make the commitment it needs to be successfull. Perhaps if SF would have stayed Premier and not grown to be 30 parks big, Premier could've been that owner.

BTW, Sam Marks was banned for posting info about a non Cbuzz event.

*** Edited 10/27/2005 2:07:23 PM UTC by coasterguts***

^Ditto.

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Colin Fisher said:
Also I've always wanted to know what Brutal Planet is. We never go because I says it's an extra fee to get in. So what is it? I'm guessing the fee is the Souvenier Cups you get. Saw tons of people with them.

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I've been on Brutal Planet in 2002. It's the best haunted house at SFA. Yeah you might be turned off because of the fee (as well as others) but its worth it. The house well is pretty much bigger than Hall Manor and Zambora. It's a attraction you shouldn't miss, yet I can't say for this year though.

Safeway got me on a lock schedule, and I got stuck going to Fright Fest the last weekend. My friends burn me for not going last weekend. I'm sure I will make up for this weekend. ;)

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SFAmerica said:
I am not batwingsfan buddy, in a sense I have no relations or recieved any information from him/her. I am just commenting on how, EVER since I was on sixflagsnews.com as FREEFALL, I have been waiting for SFA to announce a huge coaster. I've even worked at SFA and I've heard many complain of how boring OUR Six flags is. It does not matter if SFA has gotten 'new' rides every other year in the past, the problem is how are you going to make your current customers happy while attracting more from elsewhere.

I know that SFA is putting ALLOT of time and effort to make the ambient of the park more welcoming instead of just cramming rides, thus making it into a park of steel. But they need to speed up the process just like they are converting other parks. However, SFA is still a kool park but it would be better and appealing if they get some more rides. LOOK AT IT IN THE CUSTOMERS (whole) PROSPECTIVE, ......deep inside you wish SFA to be more progressive and innovative like SFMM, SFGAm, SFGAd..... The truth is the majority of middle and wealthy class are going to PKD or SFNJ instead of SFA, because they see SFA a crap! (ask any college student, middle class adult, anybody from this area)

I know that I just have to patient but as we know SF seeks for feedback about their parks, and we also know that based on customer's feedback they can make radical changes within a month time frame before the announcement! So, to SFA, if you are getting a new ride it better be hardcore like other parks, (the 'something' new coasterlover is mentioning better not be no damn hand rail or a new sign!)

BTW, what happened to SAM MARKS he always had good connections with that park!

~~pardon my grammar

LOL, coasterlover, I checked your profile on facebook (drew)...and thinking back, we've actually been in same classes at cp! I am pre-med as well! *** Edited 10/27/2005 6:42:48 AM UTC by SFAmerica***

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I almost had ya confused with the SFN poster who was known as 90Degrees for a second as I've talked to him quite extensively via IM lately.

I havn't seen Sam on here lately or in the park for that matter so who knows what he's been up to these days.