SFA Aug 23, 2004

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Tuesday, August 24, 2004 10:30 AM
Hey guys,

I am not going to write a whole page on how my trip went because everything was normal. The point of this new topic is that I did not see any signs of construction what so ever. Also, I asked a SFA mechanic whether he knew or not that SFA is getting a new attraction next year, and he said that he did not know. I figure that it was his job to be descrete about his knowings to the public.

So guys you tell me where the "signs" of construction are...

Also, those fence near superman are just for protection when the landscapers are mowing the grass, as told by a super at superman.

Overall great trip!!!

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Tuesday, August 24, 2004 11:54 AM
There are signs of construction all over the place! Just last week someone who knows someone saw a friend of a guy who works at SFA buying a Garden Weasle at Home Depot.

Garden Weasels are used to break ground. Therefore, SFA and "breaking ground" are used in the same sentence (well... sort of), so the logical conclusion is that a new record breaking coaster is coming to this park next year.

(There, I saved some of the die hard SFA "fan boys" the trouble of explaining all of this)

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Tuesday, August 24, 2004 1:34 PM

SLFAKE said:
Just last week someone who knows someone saw a friend of a guy who works at SFA buying a Garden Weasle at Home Depot.

Shame on you, You've just disclosed BATWINGFAN SFA's Information Source?

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Tuesday, August 24, 2004 2:10 PM
Chances are we won't see anything major until after the close of the season.

As we all know the park usually doesn't start construction until just after they close for the season,anyhow I was there just last week with my sister & the kids for a couple of hours & managed to get some good rides in,my nephew finally makes the 48 inch cut needed for WO & FC...he really enjoyed both of them.

Is Two face back up & running yet? last week it was down all afternoon/evening,as was Riddle me this.

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Tuesday, August 24, 2004 2:12 PM
Sam A. Marks: Hey... I didn't mention any names!

*** Edited 8/24/2004 6:13:18 PM UTC by SLFAKE***

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Tuesday, August 24, 2004 5:08 PM

SLFAKE said:
Sam A. Marks: Hey... I didn't mention any names! *** SLFAKE***

nor any e-mail addresses :)

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Tuesday, August 24, 2004 8:03 PM
hey Sam,

I read somewhere that you have good connections with SFA, do you know if SFA is getting any new attraction next year? You don't have to answer and I would understand, it could mess up your relationship but aleast a clue. Thanks...

Oh and you club seem kool!

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Tuesday, August 24, 2004 10:44 PM

SFAmerica said:
hey Sam,

I read somewhere that you have good connections with SFA, do you know if SFA is getting any new attraction next year? You don't have to answer and I would understand, it could mess up your relationship but aleast a clue. Thanks...


If they were to tell someone, it would be wrong, since there's no county approval yet, however we need to remember that SROS track was on site before Jokers Jinx was 1/2 finished in late 1998.

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Wednesday, August 25, 2004 12:23 AM
i love how batwingfansfa is always clueless or in denial when we are pointing out his blunders...anyway....just thought id point that out :)
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Wednesday, August 25, 2004 8:11 PM
For anyone that is interested, I just checked the operating calendar and there has been a change. The park was originally going to be closed Sept. 25th and 26th. But is now open from 10:30-6. The marquee at the bottom of the page claims we are getting a "bonus weekend"....
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Wednesday, August 25, 2004 8:49 PM

coasterguts said:
For anyone that is interested, I just checked the operating calendar and there has been a change. The park was originally going to be closed Sept. 25th and 26th. But is now open from 10:30-6. The marquee at the bottom of the page claims we are getting a "bonus weekend"....

PKD is open nov 6th and 7th

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Wednesday, August 25, 2004 8:51 PM
I have looked at their "PKS" information and it seems that they do need to add those extra days to recuperate somewhat from all those lows on their "money graph."

By looking at those graphs and info, the whole company is ~$2.1 billion in debt. How can we assume that SFA will be getting something new next year?
*true, SFA is overdue for a new coaster, but can they afford the making of a new coaster?

I have also done research that in the past years, Six flags inc has ignored other parks longer than SFA. Also, I would assume that if SFA were to get a new ride six flags astroworld would need to get one too. Don't they install the same rides at the same time?....WHo knows maybe SFA will not be getting anything new but rennovations.

THE ANSWERS ARE OPEN!

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Thursday, August 26, 2004 4:37 AM
Two things here...

1) "SFA is overdue for a new coaster" according to who? Four years is hardly "overdue."

2) SFA is far from "ignored" by Six Flags Corporate.

One thing is for certain - it's pretty obvious what that new fence everyone is rumer-mongering about is for (and no, it's not for a new attraction).

-Nate
*** Edited 8/26/2004 8:38:51 AM UTC by coasterdude318***

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Thursday, August 26, 2004 8:17 AM

SFAmerica said:
I have looked at their "PKS" information and it seems that they do need to add those extra days to recuperate somewhat from all those lows on their "money graph."


I don't think they added those days because they need to recuperate from losses, but, because they couldn't sell the park out for a corporate picnic. The same thing happened last year. They were originally going to be closed but ended up adding two extra operating days.


By looking at those graphs and info, the whole company is ~$2.1 billion in debt. How can we assume that SFA will be getting something new next year?
*true, SFA is overdue for a new coaster, but can they afford the making of a new coaster?


I don't think anyone is assuming the park will be getting anything new next year. There was alot of speculation about a safety fence which fueled speculation about a new attraction. In almost any park I can think of, any type of fence would fuel speculation that a park is adding a new ride(s). The fence and the fact that SFA hides any sort of construction activity and doesn't announce new attractions until January or February when other parks announce late in the season creates an atmosphere where rumours what the park is going to add next ferment until they explode.


I have also done research that in the past years, Six flags inc has ignored other parks longer than SFA. Also, I would assume that if SFA were to get a new ride six flags astroworld would need to get one too. Don't they install the same rides at the same time?....WHo knows maybe SFA will not be getting anything new but rennovations.

THE ANSWERS ARE OPEN!


There is no sound formula anyone can use to determine which parks are going to get new attractions each year. It's usually a surprise to everyone.

Sam, thanks for letting us know PKD is open on Nov. 6th and 7th. The past few years I have noticed the weather is usually nice outside that weekend and wanted to go to a park someplace and of course my local park is closed. Now I have an alternative. Hmmm, maybe getting that 2005 Season Pass before the end of September wouldn't be such a bad idea after all. *** Edited 8/26/2004 12:19:11 PM UTC by coasterguts***

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Thursday, August 26, 2004 8:19 AM

SFAmerica said: How can we assume that SFA will be getting something new next year?
*true, SFA is overdue for a new coaster, but can they afford the making of a new coaster?

THE ANSWERS ARE OPEN!


2002 saw a 10% increase in attendance at SFA with no new attractions.

1995 Mind Eraser opens Attendance increases 25%

SFA "can" perform well, i guess it depends on many factors.

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Thursday, August 26, 2004 8:22 AM
Wow! A 25% increase in attendance in on year off of one coaster. I guess it shows how starved this area was for a SLC, even something as rough as Mind Eraser. I remember going to the park one year and watching the ops tell people they needed to take their ear rings off. I guess that is a sign of how rough that coaster can be at times.
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Monday, August 30, 2004 4:01 PM
^Back then an invert/SLC was a real novelty ride...especially for this area.


Sam how are plans going for the annual SFA invasion? I just remembered that there are plans for the park to be open for passholders on the 31st.

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Monday, August 30, 2004 4:28 PM
I actually visited AW in '95 (my first visit since '86) just to ride Mind Eraser. Damn thing was closed all day. Oh well, at least now I'm able to say I rode an Arrow shuttle.
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Monday, August 30, 2004 11:19 PM
^I took my first ride on ME in 96(still have the on ride pic) & back then it was rather smooth & still had a good paint job to it.

My first lap(if you'd call it that) on python(the arrow shuttle you mentioned Vater) came in 97...now prior to that I had never ridden any shuttle coasters before but was coaxed into riding it only after getting into Southwest Territory(morrocan(sp?) village back then)only to find Wild one out of comission for a good part of the day.

Man those were some good times we had on that coaster but of course I'll take TF:TFS over it any day.

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