SFA no news is good news?

Wednesday, January 5, 2005 12:58 PM
The permits everyone was watching for detail of are not for park expansion or new rides. So it's wait and see :)
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Wednesday, January 5, 2005 2:18 PM
May I ask for more information on these permits? I don't really know what you are talking about.
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Wednesday, January 5, 2005 2:57 PM
SFA has more people on this site speculating about permits than any other park. Relax!
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Wednesday, January 5, 2005 3:15 PM

Fun said:
May I ask for more information on these permits? I don't really know what you are talking about.

On the Prince Georges county park and planning commission site there is a page to search if building permits are requested for a particular address

http://www.mncppc.org/permits/permits.asp

once SFA's address is entered you can see what recent or pending permits are pending/approved or on hold.

SAM

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Wednesday, January 5, 2005 3:33 PM
I see. Well if SFWoA has shown us anything, it's that obtaining 235 ft building permits don't necessarily mean anything is going to be built.
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Wednesday, January 5, 2005 6:01 PM
That's a good one Fun. If we don't remember the past we are doomed to repeat it. ;) *** Edited 1/5/2005 11:01:38 PM UTC by macho nachos***
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Wednesday, January 5, 2005 10:06 PM
My vote still goes to a new restroom being added over by Batwing.
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Thursday, January 6, 2005 8:43 AM
So theres no 'good' information/news of what is being installed at SFA? Has anyone passed by the park?

I wounder how long will it be until we see a new coaster? I mean SFI being in so much debt we are 'never' gonna see an innovative ride at SFA anything soon! Seems like any B&M coasters are out of the picture and more intamins(spell??)

:D

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Thursday, January 6, 2005 2:06 PM
With SFI's current debt situation they're too busy trying to gain a quick ROI so it'll be a while before the next coaster will be added to SFA or any of the other teir 2 parks.....right now that focus only seems to be on SFMM(in recent seasons),SFGRADV & SFGRAM.

So far all that is known about the recent permit is that it's a request for a concrete pad,which can be used for any number of things & from what I read on the list of permits filed so far it seems like for whatever reason the approval of the permit seems to be on hold.

Does anyone know by any chance where parcel-A is on the property? from what the permit states that is the general location where this pad is to be constructed.

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Thursday, January 6, 2005 4:19 PM

BATWING FAN SFA said:
My vote still goes to a new restroom being added over by Batwing.

I'll visit this year then, but only if it's a 235' bathroom. That I can bungee jump off of when I'm done.

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Thursday, January 6, 2005 10:46 PM
SFAmerica, how do you know there won't be anything in the future? You do get a bonus point though for spelling Intamin correctly.
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Friday, January 7, 2005 1:53 PM
I guess he's basing it on how long it's been since Batwing was installed.....heck even in the AW era the longest they've gone between major coaster installations has been the 3 years between Mind Eraser(95) & Roar(98).

It will now be 4 years since Batwing's installation & since then all we've gotten is one water ride (in 03) & waterpark expansion/improvements on the horizon for 05.... & with SFNE trying to add a spinning mouse this year that now means that every continental US SF park has added at least one (or in some cases 2) major coasters starting in 02 except for the following parks:SFOT,SFFT,SFAW,SFA,SFSTL & SFDL.

The major hurdle to SFA adding a new coaster seems to be the every other year schedule they're on,which happens to coincide with the big parks getting their coasters,every time SFMM or SFGRADV gets a coaster for example it's an off year for SFA & when it comes time to add a new ride to SFA it turns out to be time to do the same at SFGRADV or SFMM & guess who corporate usually gives the coaster to each & every time?

If you guessed SFGRADV then you're correct & recieve the grand prize,still if the new waterpark does well & they get their finances in order they may want to ride the "wave" of success generated by the waterpark expansion & add something in 06 as well,I mean why quit when your'e ahead right?

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Friday, January 7, 2005 2:21 PM
That post proves you know absolutely nothing about how amusement parks are run. Goodness gracious. Can someone help this guy out?
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Friday, January 7, 2005 2:53 PM
It's been that way for a long, LONG time. Just ignore. I think most do!
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Friday, January 7, 2005 3:25 PM
LMAO Jeff....thanks! :)
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Friday, January 7, 2005 4:42 PM
I based my speculation on how 'poor' SFI is becoming!!! I mean I used to work at SFA and they were in such budget. If any coaster does approach SFA it will be prob in the next two years...They already spent alot this and on the past season and SFI budget is getting smaller :D.......(source: super!!!) ;D

"cant always trust your secondary sources!!!" *** Edited 1/7/2005 9:44:18 PM UTC by SFAmerica***

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Friday, January 7, 2005 11:11 PM
haha...did u notice what BFSFA said? he said, every park has gotten one, somtimes two coasters, except...and listed almost half of the Six Flags parks in the US, lol :)

keep tryin bucko;)

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Friday, January 7, 2005 11:21 PM
Didn't they request an enviornmental impact study of some sort recently?if I remember correctly from looking at the list of rides from 99 the runaway car ride(80 ft tall,1300 ft long) may require such a study prior to it's construction.

Anyhow the waterpark expansion is probably what they need most right now seeing as that area of the park is so busy & if it boosts the attendance of the park overall for the upcoming season(which it probably will) depending on the weather during peak season then it'll have been a wise move on their part & they can then use that as a stepping stone of sorts towards their next major addition in 06 or 07.

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Friday, January 7, 2005 11:25 PM
Exactly. Which shows that it isn't just a couple parks, but a chain wide problem, right?

There are 15 U.S. Six Flags branded parks. We're gonna throw out SFNO for 2 reasons:
1) it was just purchased in 2003 and got new coasters like all parks SFI purchases it's first year. But, then, it isn't getting anything this year.
2) there is already a thread for this one out there.

So that leaves us with 14. BWSFA listed 6 parks that haven't gotten a new coaster since 02(only 2/almost 3 years ago). That is 1 less than half. So he just debunked his whole theory of SFA gets treated like crap.

Of those 6 parks listed, SFAW just got 2 major rides not too long ago. SFA just got a major water ride, and looks to be getting something this year fairly large. I'm not sure when SFoT, SFFT, SFDL, or SFStL got a new ride last, but that is 4 parks, none of which is even SFA.

Not to mention that a few of those parks that got 'new' coasters really got used coasters, like SFKK. Oh, and I don't think that all the parks not listed got 'major' coasters added. Some got mice, small flyers, Half Pipes, and like I said, smaller used (or in SFNO's case, 2 used, 1 really major)

And of those 4, none are top tier parks, with the exception of maybe SFoT, and it is at least a 2nd tier, as is SFFT.

Besides that, we still do not have all of the announcements for 2005. Weren't almost all of the parks getting something?

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Monday, January 10, 2005 9:24 AM

BATWING FAN SFA said:all that is known about the recent permit is that it's a request for a concrete pad,which can be used for any number of things

There is NOTHING in the current permit request that indicates what it is for! NOTHING! the permits from LAST YEAR indicate a concrete pad, and that was for them to move the rock wall from gotham to the waterpark. which was approved (if you actually read further you'd know that)

PLEASE, if you don't know, DON'T TELL!

SCREAMSCAPE is not GOD ALMIGHTY and they only post what people tell them, and those folks are not always correct!

I heard something that "may" be true, and it is not just 2 water slides. But that doesn't mean it's true! "Better and Wetter than ever" could simply be new tropical scenery and a kiddie wading pool!

Remember! Waterslides are probably considered Portable rides, and the park DOES NOT need a public hearing in order to build them. All they need is a permit for the cement and etc that is needed to support it. Those permits don't take but a few weeks to pass, then it's all a matter of construction and safety inspections.

Considering the expansions we're seeing pop up at SFNE and Great Escape, our "Heavy Weather" could end up being quite impressive.......OR NOT :)

SAM

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