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I can't get DSL because Verizon says I'm too far from the central office. Duane is running RCDB on a business-class line.

I have Adelphia for cable, and they suck. My upload speed isn't much over 16k, and when uploading it tanks my downstream to sub-dial-up speed. Otherwise downstream is over 3 mbits, but the upstream problem is something they refuse to address.

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The upstream problem is probably at least in part the nature of a cable modem connection. Cable lines are inherently high-bandwidth outbound, low-bandwidth inbound (relative to the CATV CO). So they're perfect for web surfers, and lousy for web servers.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Woah woah WOAH, Jeff man...

I'm tech support FOR Adelphia... I'm hurt :(
Yea, upload does average 128kilobits (15 or so kilo-bytes). I know a little inside info on Adelphia, but there is hope. Like I said, upload is going to double next month, which isn't really much. Hell, you get a business account paying twice as much as the residental, and you don't get jack in upload or download increases... you just get the privlige of calling yourself "a business".

Honestly, what would you like us to do about the upload speed? Uncap it?

Rideman: So your saying that cable internet isn't symmetrical... I never knew that. What types of high-speed internet are?

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-Rob
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Yeah, MOST consumer "high speed" connections are asymmetric. ADSL even stands for "asymmetric digital subscriber line". Cable modems, satellite links, they're all biased for much faster inbound than outbound speeds, simply because the average home user pulls a lot more data in than they push out.

SDSL is symmetric, but generally not available, or more expensive than ADSL.

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Guess that explains why it takes a lot longer to send files from my office computer than it does to receive them. We have cable and never knew that it was asymetric... not that it really matters, though. Still better than dial-up!

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-Rob
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I don't know much about DSL and the like...
But for cable, you can thank (now defunct) Coaxial Cable for developing the technology that makes bidirectional signalling possible over CATV, and Warner Cable for perfecting it. Traditionally, CATV systems have concentrated only on providing broadband CO-to-Subscriber service, because a single channel of television programming requires a 6 MHz chunk of spectrum, and they want to send you as many of those as they can. Not being a data geek, I have no idea how much data you can send through a 6 MHz pipe, but that's one TV channel.

Until recently, CATV providers needed very little backhaul data. Service requests, authentication responses, and game show contestant responses* were about it, and if the system needed to talk to the boxes, there's lots of downstream capacity to do it...just address the command to the right box. Accordingly, the amplifier capabilities are asymmetrical. They'll pass a huge amount of spectrum downstream, but won't pass hardly anything back upstream.

Well, now those asymmetrical amplifiers are being asked to push data both directions. And while a whole lot of data will fit into a single television channel, the downstream capability is still a lot bigger than the upstream capability, so naturally, the upstream bandwidth of a cable modem is going to be throttled compared with the downstream. Again, for web surfers, this is no big deal...a few bytes upstream results in huge files being blown downstream. But it's a lousy configuration for a server.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.
Whose household was the first on the block to get Qube back in 1977...

Hey... I forgot about Qube! I thought that was just the coolest thing. The "Viewer's Choice" channel boggled my mind. You mean I can order the TV to play a certain movie!?

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Wow. The last two places I've lived weren't wired for full broadband, so what I end up with is a dial-up cable modem (one way service) - it gives dialup speed uploads but cable speed downloads. It always annoyed me. But I guess it's not all that bad compared to what some of you get.

I'm looking into the cable companies around here (pittsburgh) because there are at least 2 companies providing service depending on where you live in the area and the best I can find without paying for "business" connection is up to 1.5mbps download and 384k upload.

It'd make for uploading some of my videos and pics much quicker and easier but it really seems like "up to" are the key words in that offer. Plus I'm finding cable service over here costs about double what I paid in Jacksonville and Allentown.

Just thinking out loud in unison with the thread...ignore me :)

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