Seatbelts on B&M "Lightning"

Saturday, December 10, 2005 5:42 PM
I just had a quick question about the coaster "Lightning" at Entertainment City in Kuwait.

First of all, I had never even heard of this coaster until just recently. I was looking at one of the pictures and saw that all seats had two seatbelts. Is this something new B&M is doing? Did the park specifically ask for this?

Here's the picture: http://www.rcdb.com/ig2872.htm?picture=2

Just hoping someone would know.

Thanks. :)

Ok... back to studying. ;)

*** Edited 12/10/2005 10:45:44 PM UTC by UBRhino***

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Saturday, December 10, 2005 5:53 PM
I don't know why there is two seat belts. That's a good question. I mean I haven't seen any other B&M's with 2 seat belts, at least in the US.
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Saturday, December 10, 2005 5:57 PM
A friend receives First Drop magazine he told that they specifically talked about the seatbelts. The reason why they're like that is that in Koweit, men tend to wear long robes and having a seatbelt between the legs is not possible when you have a long robe!
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Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:04 PM
Kuwait, perhaps?
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Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:11 PM
Wow that's really interesting Absimilliard. Thank you for that information! :)
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Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:18 PM
Don't the "larger riders" row on B&M inverteds usually have 2 belts to attach?

Why am I thinking I've seen that in practice before?

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Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:20 PM
FYI, the ride is a Batman clone.
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Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:41 PM
As LG said, the "larger rider" rows on B&M coasters (inverted, floorless, and sit-down) have two seatbelts. I believe the majority of the B&M rides in this country have a row or two that have seats with two belts.

-Nate

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Saturday, December 10, 2005 6:52 PM
FYI, the trains are Talon clones.
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Saturday, December 10, 2005 7:50 PM
Yes, the big-boy seats have two belts.

The reasoning, or so I'm told, is that the "bump" where the single belts has to go OVER it, by having two belts they both go AROUND it....

Now instead of calling them "big-boy seats", we'll call them *Kuwait Seaties*...take-off on the Capital... ;)

Also, I'd have to guess they don't have the same speil about "loose hats"? :)

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Saturday, December 10, 2005 8:19 PM
The Kuwait seats aren't the same as the normal big boy seats... The big boy seats seatbelts attach between the legs. The Kuwait seatbelts attach on the side.
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Saturday, December 10, 2005 11:28 PM
Now the question I have...

On both this coaster and on the other B&M coasters with 'larger person' seats (why don't they put the big-people belts on any of the outboard seats??)...

Why are there two belts? The standard configuration uses only one belt. The shoulder bar itself is locked with four locking pawls, so it isn't just for redundancy...from that point of view, one belt is almost ridiculous. Why don't they do the same as Intamin does on the Impulse coasters, and use one belt on one side?

The only reason I can think of is that B&M have a thing for symmetry...

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Saturday, December 10, 2005 11:52 PM
I believe it is because it is the easiest way to point it out to guests. "Hey you- go to that seat with two belts."

*** Edited 12/11/2005 5:55:13 AM UTC by Fun***

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Sunday, December 11, 2005 1:33 AM
Isn't this the Batman Clone with only 6 cars per train?
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Sunday, December 11, 2005 2:55 AM
RideMan, assuming the rider has legs, it adds some sort of redundecy so the rider cannot slide out the seat from the side. At least that's logically what comes to mind. Seems a bit over the top, but you know B&M. :)
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Sunday, December 11, 2005 8:04 AM
Maybe there's a lot of extra junk that needs to be replaced in the body and it's easier to move it to the lower midsection than separate it to the two sides? I honestly have no idea.

+Danny

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Sunday, December 11, 2005 12:58 PM
LOL Dave, I was going to say that the "outside" seatbelts were like the ones on the Premier retrofits....or even the after-market installs on the DVs...

Be interesting to see these kind of restraints if/when some other Muslim countries get some big new steelies...with the price of oil right now, they gotta $pend it somewhere... ;)

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Sunday, December 11, 2005 9:20 PM
And yet this park goes for an el cheapo Batman Clone ;).
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Sunday, December 11, 2005 9:44 PM
What do you expect from a park that chooses such in your face names as LIGHTNING and the dreaded ROLLER COASTER?
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