SDC & CC in 2005

Thursday, January 29, 2004 4:45 PM
Well there are quite a few rumors flying around of a new roller coaster for SDC in 2005. The most likely being a overhaul of BuzzSaw Falls to incorporate a launch and longer track. Now I find this to be possible but what about the whole Ice House ride. The Ice House story did pop up on the side of several carts in the park. This I know because I saw them for myself. I'm not sure whats up but what do you all think is likely?

But my true curiosity is with CC. While they have said they have plans for expansion not much else was said. When do you all think will be the soonest we see a new coaster at the park? I'm hoping by 2006 and I really want to see an Intamin in Missouri! Ahh but still only dreams. So what do you think they will most likely get when they get it?

Thursday, January 29, 2004 7:57 PM
I could see them (CC) getting a B&M some time. But not sure when this could be.

As for the Ice House idea, there was that one little plaque with the information about Ozark Ice Houses. That could be a hint, but it could also just be a coincidence.
As for the overhaul of BSFalls, How would they do this? And am I the only person that would rather have a new coaster instead of getting rid of the Buzz?

Monday, February 2, 2004 5:06 PM

I was talking to someone from employment at SDC on the phone today, and he was saying that SDC will completely get rid of Buzz Saw Falls and will receive a new coaster in 2005. The new coaster will be a "SNS" company (? that's what it sounded like) It is basically what the survey was talking about, here are some quick facts; It will use water, but the riders will not get very wet, if wet at all and the ride will use a hydraulic launch system, he said it will be unlike anything around the world. He said there would be a 200 foot drop involved somewhere in the ride.


Monday, February 2, 2004 5:32 PM

CoasterBill said:The new coaster will be a "SNS" company (? that's what it sounded like)

If your source is truely credable, then the manufacturer they are refering to is S&S, builder of Kings Dominion's Hypersonic and Dodonpa over in Japan as well as countless air powered freefall rides across the country. All the facts about what the coaster would be like fall right in line with the work that S&S is known for...

Monday, February 2, 2004 5:57 PM
Gosh, is the park really having that much trouble with BSF? When did it open, '98 or '99? That means it only lasted half a decade!

Anyway, this launch thing does sound much more fun. It would be very unique.

Monday, February 2, 2004 6:46 PM
That's it, I'm sure it was S&S, good description of the company by the way. haha.

This will be one heck of a ride, 200 foot drop in the Ozark Mountains, with water effects... drool.

Monday, February 2, 2004 8:10 PM
S&S doesn't use hydraulics though...unless they've switched from compressed air?
Monday, February 2, 2004 8:22 PM
Joe....considering the success Intamin has had with hydraulics, perhaps Stan thought he could do better? :)

Hafta admit being QUITE surprised with the constancy of these BSF removal ideas....not really much to it in terms of complex mechanics, and I found it to be a *very* fun ride...what's up? Not a people-eater by any means, but it doesn't really need to be. Because of the relative simplicity, I can't imagine it being a maintenance hog or having serious downtime issues. It's pretty unique all its own (although I'd have done more with the theming, LOL).

So....why's BSF on the chopping block? Is there something SPECIFIC that the park doesn't care for about the ride, 'cause I sure liked it a lot....

Monday, February 2, 2004 9:51 PM
I dont know the exact reason.
But I know that they have had problems in the past with lightening (About 5 different times I've been there it was closed due to being *struck* by lightning)
I always enjoyed BSF, but I always wished that it had a longer 'roller coaster' section too it. Oh well, I'll take an S&S launched ride over BSF any time
Tuesday, February 3, 2004 9:14 AM
Well BSF opened nearly 6 months late due to some turns being to sharp in the water canals causing the boats to get stuck. So the ride canals had to be redesigned and redug. This of course brought the cost of the ride up! And even then after that they had even more trouble with getting the cars to thread onto the track. And the cars/boats had to have work done on them also. I know it was problem after problem with the ride! I knew the attractions supervisor at the time (Arron Newberry) and he and I always kept in contact and he told me what was going on with the ride. I also believe that during construction it was struck by lightning several times.

Sadly when it did open most of the general public didn't like it as it wasen't very satisfying as a water ride or as a rollercoaster. Ridership on the ride has been low since it was built. rarely is the line over 15 miniutes even on their busiest days. Its a shame people didn't get to ride it at night. I had that lovely opportunity! At night with the lights all out the ride blows you away! One of the best night rides EVER! Wonderful ride at night but during the day it isn't that great. Ahh I miss the days when Arron worked there! He was great! Told me about Wildfire in 1999!

*** Edited 2/3/2004 2:17:07 PM UTC by Wildfire01***

Tuesday, February 3, 2004 10:35 PM

Wildfire01 said:
rarely is the line over 15 miniutes even on their busiest days.

*** Edited 2/3/2004 2:17:07 PM UTC by Wildfire01***

Are you kiddin me? There wasn't a single day during the summer that I've been there over the past 2 or 3 years when that line is well out of the queue house.

It was a nightmare with how many guests go through it in any given day.

Tuesday, February 3, 2004 11:00 PM
I thought the ride was boring... in fact, one of the most boring rides I've ridden. I rode it once and waited about 20 minutes. I will never do that again. The concept is very neat, but the actual ride left me feeling that something, a lot of something, was left out. I would love to see it remove for a better, more exciting ride (which it wouldn't take much to have a better ride than BSF).
Thursday, February 5, 2004 8:46 AM
BSF was a great concept as said but it lacked to much of each element! You almost feel cheated out of what could have been a wonderful ride! Of course it was the first of it kind so we have to give it that! And despite what others say it was the first! The other water coasters infact ran on track in their flumes unlike BSF where they actually float through the flumes and are threaded onto the track! Anyway yes I hate to see it go but I trust SDC. I have yet to see them make a mistake and not correct it! As long as they never remove Fire in the Hole I'll be fine!
Thursday, February 5, 2004 1:22 PM
The only day I can see the Park removing Fire in the Hole is when Six Flags buys the park, tears down all of the trees, and builds the worlds first 600+foot coaster. Haha.
Thursday, February 5, 2004 4:19 PM
All anyone needs to do is read between the lines in the First Drop IAAPA round-up to find the answer. It's in there ;)


Thursday, February 5, 2004 4:48 PM
Has Six Flags ever purchased a park and torn down all the trees? Or built a coaster nearly that tall?

Cedar Fair, on the other hand...


Thursday, February 5, 2004 6:20 PM

Wildfire01 said:The other water coasters infact ran on track in their flumes unlike BSF where they actually float through the flumes and are threaded onto the track!

Maybe SDC should have gone with those. Quite frankly, the flume gimmick means nothing. It doesn't make the ride any better (of course, if done correctly, could make the ride a lot better) and most people probably don't even notice that it's not running on rails.

Thursday, February 5, 2004 8:00 PM
^ I agree. Seems like they went through alot of trouble for nothing for that one. Would it be possible to put track though the entire ride?
Thursday, February 5, 2004 8:06 PM
Yes it would be possible but it wouldn't make the ride any better. I'm sure SDC knows what they're doing. All I know is I've never been dissapointed by SDC!
Thursday, February 5, 2004 11:10 PM

Mamoosh said:
All anyone needs to do is read between the lines in the First Drop IAAPA round-up to find the answer. It's in there ;)


You and your teasing moosh....

You suck.:)

(No sick joke intended)


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