Scream begins its vertical ascent at Magic Mountain

I don't think anyone's cooled on B&M because of any other coaster company.

I like B&M's rides (up there with Intamin), but I'm not infatuated with them... :)

Did anyone really make a fuss when SFAmerica's S:ROS went up? That's an Intamin ride (again, I like Intamin, this is just an example), but it was a clone of something already created. And that something wasn't necessarily the be all end all of coasters. Neither is Medusa.

I think that if an Intamin looper went up at MM, there'd be a lot more fanfare. Intamin hasn't produced many loopers in the U.S.A., and certainly nothing recent. It's something new.

As with the floorless coaster, we've seen floorless coasters before, not only the exact same design, but a similar design in the same state.

I also think that a large part of it has to do with the fact that Scream will only be the 2nd, maybe even THIRD most popular ride at Magic Mountain, behind X and, well, either Goliath, Deja Vu or Riddler. I haven't been there recently enough to know what people like these days.

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Even though Medusa was fun I have to admit, I think that the best floorless in America is Kraken in Sea World Orlando. Seven full inversions, nice layout, and has fun loops. Besides, the wait is never more than five minutes. I personally think it was a mistake for SFMM to put a floorless in if it doesn't do anything special. I mean, it's just like ValleyFair! adding Steel Venom, no one out of Minnesota or Wisconsin will come to go on a impulse! No one but the regulars will continue going to SFMM. Cedar Point was smart in building Top Thrill Dragster because that is a ride that people will come to go on. Scream is your average floorless. You can basically go on one anywhere in the U.S. And the only reason why SFMM built it was to compete with Cedar Point who is obviously a better park because they are more people friendly by having all of their rides open every day. Also the lines aren't as nearly as long. CP's the best! SF, I don't get you!

I'm thinking that the whole idea of adding Scream was to attract people from the SoCal area even more. They're not trying to attract people from Sandusky. And also, as it has been said so many times, to make lines shorter for rides like X and Deja Vu. Remember, the majority of park visitors are the General Public.

I personally love the idea of having a B & M floorless at SFMM. Magic mountain is my "home park"--it's the only one close enough to be a day trip, and the wife and I go there about 20-25 times a year. I couldn't care less whether it's a clone of some east cost coaster that I've never been on and will never go on. Even if I had been on Medusa East, I don't go to that park 20 times a year, so I still like having one close by.

Is it an attempt to compete with Cedar Point for most coasters? Of course, but it isn't just that. If their only purpose was most coasters, they easily could have build a mad mouse coaster (which I think SFMM would greatly benefit from having anyway) and a junior or family coaster for far less than a large, relatively expensive B & M looper. They deserve credit for putting in a quality ride for their competition, and not taking the cheap and easy route.

Looks pretty neat, but I'm not to crazy about the new addition. I think SFMM should have waited a few more years to add another major coaster. They should let X have the spotlight for a while. This whole "Xtreme Park" idea is too dramatic. It may be too extreme for some people; take it one new ride at a time. It's nice to have the capability to build new and monsterous coasters, but at the same time remember what an amusement/theme park is all about: fun for the WHOLE family. Spread the wealth around and don't just spend the money in just coasters. They may have used the money on other things too, but take it easy.

Of course more smaller rides would improve the park--in particular, as I said, I'd like to see a nice mad mouse or family coaster. Other than the Gold Rusher, they really don't have anything in between the big intense coasters and the kiddie coasters. Go to Knott's and you'll usually find the mild, but family friendly Jaguar with a longer ride than the intimidating Xcelerator.

I'd also like to see some more flats. I'm not very familiar with the generic name, but a ride like the Gran Slammer at Knott's--(it's called the Magic Carpet in RCT2) would be nice. The Kern County Fair had a ride I'd never seen before that I absolutely loved, called the Fireball. It had a ring of ski-lift type seats hanging from a large arm, and the seats spun as the arm swung back and forth--it was small, looked relatively inexpensive (relative to a coaster, that is) and was an awesome medium intensity/medium capacity ride.

But I still like having Scream. A new, high capacity ride will draw people away from Deja Vu (my favorite coaster in the park) and Goliath. More big coasters means fewer people in line for each one, which means more riding and less waiting for me.

Yeah, I know. I want a mad mouse (in place of Flashback would be perfect), a family coaster (put it on stilts and run it over the midway games like Jaguar), more flats, and the new big coaster, too. While I'm at it, I'd like a pony, too. Maybe for 2004, they'll think small.

Still, my wife won't go on the big coasters (she'll go on Ghostrider at Knott's, but won't believe that Goliath and Batman are far less intense because they look more intimidating), but there's always plenty for her to do.