Schwarzkopf Box Track

Friday, December 28, 2001 4:53 PM
How many Schwarzkopf coasters have box track such as SFOG's Mindbender?  Even after 23 years, it is still in the Golden Ticket top 20, and is one of my personal favorites.  Were there any other coasters with similar track designs or layouts?
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Friday, December 28, 2001 5:01 PM
SFOT's Shockwave is the Bender's sibling, same track but the loops are consecutive.  Some of the old shuttle loopers' loop tracks are similar to the truss construction of the previous two, but are triangular instead of square.

In truth, box track is what B+M uses, while Intamin track lends itself more to a truss design.  But hey, I won't hold anyone to that. ;-)

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Friday, December 28, 2001 5:07 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmm.. forgive me if I'm wrong, but, the Tidal Wave,  (cough, cough,) viper.. oops.. oh well... has box track too. I'm not sure but I think all the shuttles that he built have box track also?  Does anyone know?
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Friday, December 28, 2001 5:45 PM
Tidal Wave/Viper does not have box track.
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Friday, December 28, 2001 5:50 PM
Go here and look.

http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery38.htm?Picture=1   

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Friday, December 28, 2001 5:55 PM
correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't Mindbender designed by Schwartzkopf, but actually built by Intamin? That looks like Intamin track to me.
Regardless, I've had the good fortune of going to SFOG and i must say it's one hell of a park - too bad they took out Viper; that ride was incredible. I hope they get something just as good, and that Viper finds a new home.

(oh, and i can't remember if the shuttles have box track, but i know ALL schwartzkopf coasters have a box-like support around the loops, as in the picture stoogemanmoe showed us).

*** This post was edited by nelson324 on 12/28/2001. ***

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Friday, December 28, 2001 5:58 PM
http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery38.htm?Picture=1" target=_blankhttp://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery38.htm?Picture=1   
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um, yeah, right, were talking about the type of track used on mindbender and shockwave (or more recently millennium force), so, i guess your wrong...
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Friday, December 28, 2001 6:27 PM
Whatever.
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Friday, December 28, 2001 6:39 PM
No, MBender was designed and manufactured by Schwarzkopf in West Germany back when it still existed.  That company later became part of Intamin.  Viper and Tidal wave had solid-box contruction for the loops.  Thunderlooper and King Kobra had open-truss construction for their loops.
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Friday, December 28, 2001 7:37 PM
Let's see: How about the one with the two loops at SFOT?? ;)

Oh...and the Revolution has some box track! I

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Friday, December 28, 2001 8:24 PM
What about Shockwave?
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Saturday, December 29, 2001 10:19 AM
Truss type loop: http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery108.htm?Picture=1

Solid Box loop: http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery240.htm?Picture=4

It looks as though the solid box typer loop has a quicker radius. It feels that way when riding those coasters. Does anyone know of any other differences?

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Saturday, December 29, 2001 10:21 AM

nelson324 said:
correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't Mindbender designed by Schwartzkopf, but actually built by Intamin? That looks like Intamin track to me.
Regardless, I've had the good fortune of going to SFOG and i must say it's one hell of a park - too bad they took out Viper; that ride was incredible. I hope they get something just as good, and that Viper finds a new home.
(oh, and i can't remember if the shuttles have box track, but i know ALL schwartzkopf coasters have a box-like support around the loops, as in the picture stoogemanmoe showed us).
*** This post was edited by nelson324 on 12/28/2001. ***

That is exactly right...Intamin has been working with Schwarzkopf and B&M.  Heck, B&M used to work for Intamin.

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Saturday, December 29, 2001 3:06 PM
In it's early days Intamin was a park designer and a broker for a number of European and U.S. ride manufactueres. They did not build rides in those days. They represented Schwarzkopf, Von Roll, Crown Metal Products,Wagner-Brio, and several other ride builders. It wasn't until after the closing of Anton Schwarzkopf's firm did they start offering coasters under their own name. This is when Walter and Claude came into the picture. The rides were designed in Switzerland and fabricated at various plants in Europe, Giovinola being one of them.
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