Sahara looking to evict NASCAR Cafe

Posted Wednesday, June 18, 2003 4:28 AM | Contributed by MagnumForce

The Sahara is moving to evict the NASCAR Cafe from its Strip-front property, but the roller-coaster operator is fighting back. The 1,750-room hotel notified the roller coaster and restaurant operator, Dyer Ventures that it wants the property vacated by Monday. Gordon Gaming Corp., holding company for the 51-year-old Sahara, wrote Dyer on April 22 outlining nonmonetary defaults in the property's 25-year lease.

The Sahara updated its facade and built the restaurant and Speed: The Ride coaster in 2000.

Read more from The Las Vegas Review-Journal.

Wednesday, June 18, 2003 5:41 AM
No this coaster can't go anywhere, how many shuttles are we gonna loose this year?

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Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:09 AM
I dont really get this. Do they want the whole Nascar Cafe gone and Speed: The Ride to be gone?
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Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:15 AM
From what I understand, they just want the group who is managng the Cafe and the ride gone, so THEY can manage the attraction and make all the money instead of splitting profits 50/50...

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Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:39 AM
Jeff's avatar Read the article folks. Reading is your friend. The hotel owns the coaster, the cafe operates it.

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Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:38 AM
janfrederick's avatar Yikes...sound's like someone has an old score to settle or something. I wonder what the nature of the NASCAR branding agreement is. Can Sahara use it without NASCAR cafe?

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Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:11 AM
Jeff's avatar Good question. Was it the hotel or the management company that has the license agreement?

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Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:31 AM
That's just stupid to get rid of a coaster that hasn't been around that long.
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Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:47 AM
janfrederick's avatar Read again... :)

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Wednesday, June 18, 2003 12:26 PM
Jeff's avatar Stupid is as stupid does...

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Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:39 PM
I would think that the management company owns the NASCAR rights. If it were one restaurant I can see, but there are other NASCAR Cafe's in other places, including Universal Studios.

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Wednesday, June 18, 2003 3:16 PM
Jeff's avatar That's not a reason for the management company over the Sahara to have the license. If it's a franchise arrangement, I can have a license.

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Wednesday, June 18, 2003 3:23 PM
Does the coaste rhave anything to do with NASCAR? I thought it was just "Speed." If so, I would imagine the hotel it probably in the clear to continue operation as usual. I mean if worst came to worst, they'd have to change the name.

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Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:37 AM
janfrederick's avatar Hmmmm....anyone?

How about Scirocco or Magic Carpet Blast?

Thing is, the cars have that racecar theming.

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Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:49 PM
Jeff, I can see if they were only looking to evict the management. But from the story they are evicting "NASCAR Cafe" which leads me to believe that the Sahara does not have the naming rights.

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Thursday, June 19, 2003 8:28 PM
How about the "NASCAR Cafe" leased the psace from the hotel. They weren't paying the bills, so the Saraha is kicking them out and hoping to find another tenant. Sounds like what's going on.

To remove racecar themeing, just redo the car shells. I don't understan what all the hullabaloo is about.

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Friday, June 20, 2003 11:29 AM
Information on the ownership of the NASCAR Cafe Chain which appeared in the Johnson City (Tenn.) Press last year when the restaurant opened in town:

The 7,600-square-foot restaurant is the second “small box” NASCAR Cafe for the Knoxville-based chain operated by H&C Racing Inc. With larger versions in Sevierville, Las Vegas, Orlando, Fla., and the original location in Myrtle Beach, S.C., the company opened a small box in Greensboro, N.C., another area with NASCAR bonds, in April.

H&C Racing uses the name “NASCAR Cafe” under exclusive license from the National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing. The Johnson City location employs about 120 people.

From http://www.johnsoncitypress.com/default.asp?SectionID=DETAIL&ID=13302 but you may need to register to read the story online.

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Sunday, June 22, 2003 6:39 AM
Jeff's avatar GP: Read the article... they were paying their bills, this is not an issue of money. There are some kind of other conditions in the lease (non-monetary) that they're allegedly not meeting.

There is no mystery here... I would think it's as simple as the hotel wanting all of the operating profit from the cafe, store and ride instead of a portion of it.

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Sunday, June 22, 2003 10:28 PM
Sounds to me that they just weren't pulling in enough people of the street.

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