Running out of concepts

Thursday, December 21, 2000 5:44 AM
Is it just me, or does the advent of the Arrow 4d seem like the last of big coaster ideas (short of the first inverted standup and tilt designs) to be implemented for a while? I mean different coaster companies are now either playing catch-up (B&M's version of the flying and giga machines/ Arrow's LIM design) or doing something that they are already known for. Is there a design that's been left out that could revolutionize the industry again in 5 years or so that hasn't been developed or thought of?

Right now, protos are coming out left and right, but when does it get to the point where 'everythings been done' come into play and the industry gets stolid again.

Just wanted to throw that out to get everyone's opinion. (as long as someone doesn't mention an inverted woodie! thanks)
Thursday, December 21, 2000 5:55 AM
inverted Mean streak...
lord help us all

Thursday, December 21, 2000 6:09 AM
when does it get to the point eh? Well, that's what we're all waiting for!

A 310 ft tall coaster is great, but we don't have any "different" coasters. heck, we don't even have a LIM!!!! and that's old news!

*** This post was edited by CPcyclone on 12/21/2000. ***
Thursday, December 21, 2000 6:44 AM
Well I wasn't *specifically* referring to CP, though that argument could be made for CP, SFMM, PKI, etc. about what *they* would get next, whether they need it or not. I was referring to industry as a whole. It seems like most of the high profile concepts that theoretically could be made, have been already, and there's not a whole lot left.
Thursday, December 21, 2000 6:58 AM
Inverted wood floorless standup Giga with a protective cup for a restraint. Ouch!
Thursday, December 21, 2000 6:59 AM
Chris: While i hear (read) what you are saying (typing), I dont think all the 'strange' ideas have been thought of yet. The thing is, they havent been thought of yet. I'm sure coaster fans even in the late 60's early 70's never seriously thought of hanging (suspended & inverted) coasters. And how many 'visionaries' of that time dreamed of using electromagnets? We have yet to see the end of ride innovation IMO.

Now, what will that next step be? I dont know. But then again, I'm not a good person to ask. I would have never come up with the 4D concept!
Thursday, December 21, 2000 7:45 AM
I think for the next few years, you are going to see parks and designers concentrating more on rides like Spiderman (IOA). this, I believe, will lead to coaster/dark ride hybrids. Imagine if they could apply the concepts and presentation of spiderman to a well designer coaster. The sensations and thrills could be overwhelming. I think we have just hit the next plateau, not the end of invention.
Thursday, December 21, 2000 7:56 AM
I remember in the '80s when Arrow came out with the suspended coaster and Togo came out with the Stand-up, I thought, "Wow, what else can they possibly do?"

But, we will see even more extreme or clever coasters in the future. I remember in the early 90's seeing some new concepts from Arrow that they never developed...Pipeline coaster (hard to explain) and a coaster called the Virginia Reel, where (4-8 passengers?) sit in a barrel, allowing it to spin on the track.

I think we will seeing many new versions of the flying coaster. That could be the next big thing since the inverted.

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