Roller Coasters and Brain Injury:Fact or Fiction

Wednesday, September 21, 2005 10:38 PM
Well I work as an engineer and go to school. It is part of the 5 year program, you work for over a year and go to school in alternating fashino. So I worked spring and summer this year, and go to school fall and winter. So I worked as an engineer, so I consider myself an engineer.

And I am just a co-op, so I don't make the big money yet. I make 15.87$/hour if you really want to know. Which would translate to 33,000 a year. However, I am sure I will do well once I earn my degree after graduation. I might go to graduate school, so my big money days might have to wait, but I still should be just fine.

Mechanical engineers starting salaries are as good as it gets for undergraduate degrees. Very few majors make that type of money out of college, and they are usually other engineer field such as chemical engineering, electrical engineering, etc. I also have work experience, so that is always a plus. So great grades, good work experience, and a demanding major with a good starting salary, means I should be just fine after college. And getting a masters degree in mechanical engineering or some other graduate degree will only make me that more marketable.

And no, I am not this callous in person. But personal attacks and knocking down my intellgence and saying I cheated for my grades is crossing the line. I said I was not going to say what i feel about Jeff since it has nothing to do with the topic. Actually what I just posted has nothing to do with the topic. It is just a response to personal attacks. I don't want to repeat myself, so just stop it. I don't see your issue with me? I have an opinion and use support, yet you resort to attacking me.

I am 21 and not in high school. I am in year 4 of 5 of my engineering program. So I graduate in june 2007.

And if you wanted to be really technical, go study quantum mechanics. Everything, even things that have not happened , have a probability associated with it. Rather an abstract concept but the idea of probability is used to explain why Newtonian Mechanics works for objects not on the molecular level and at reasonable speed. For the molecular level quantum mechanics is needed, and for speed approaching the speed of light, Theory of Relativity is used.

So basically the probability of large objects dong something that does not agree with Newtoniann Mechanics, is so small it just never happens. So I guess you could say there is a risk to everything if you want to take it that far. However I don't think that is what a risk really is.

So what defines a risk? Something that has happened once, even if it can't happen again? Or just something that happens once and can happen again? Or maybe something that has a probability of taking place of 1 in 1*10^25, but has yet to take place? Would that be a risk, since it could happen, but might never in anyones lifetime? *** Edited 9/22/2005 2:44:40 AM UTC by Beast Fan***

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Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:08 PM
OK, now that we've decided who's better than whom and who's more important than whom on this site, how about everybody dropping it already? This nastiness is getting as annoying as worrying about whether Beast's records will fall.
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Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:58 PM
Beast Fan, go back and read the posts. I never said you cheated. You assumed that all on your own. All I said is that I'd like to question if your grades were earned in a fair and honest manner. This doesn't necessarily mean cheating. Heck, I consider curves dishonest. If you get a 72 on a test, but get an A because yours is the highest (or even a B), that's just as wrong in my book as someone outright cheating. Further, fair can mean a lot of things. For example, if professors "go easy on you" and let you slide with minimal work, that's not fair and inflates the grades. It doesn't mean you cheated, but it doesn't necessarily mean that you actually gained an 'A's worth of knowledge/understanding for that class.

As for personal attacks, I would consider this one against Jeff: "And why should I believe you? You just run a roller coaster webpage. You don't have any expertise in this area."

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Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:25 AM
Beasty, why do you have to keep justifying yourself in long winded posts about what you know? In case you didn't catch it, no one cares.

You can have all that knowledge, but you still can't apparently pick up on the FACT that insifigant risk means that there is a RISK there, but that it is insignifigant.

I defnined Risk on this thread already. Apparently you didn't read it since you are asking now. Go back and read it. If you still can't understand the definition, then God Help you.

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Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:52 AM
The risk of having a brain injury on a roller coaster is a possibility, but rather low. You cannot say that there is zero risk.

Also, my opinion on the Beast is that it is Kings Island's signature ride. I was dissapointed when i first rode in 1988, it was a bit of a letdown. I have grown fond of the coaster over time and the fin brakes are an improvement. *** Edited 9/22/2005 1:57:04 PM UTC by fanofwood***

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Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:52 AM
Beast Fan,
I get good grades. I am the same age as you. I am going to school to be a teacher. I have done Early Field Experiences in teaching. This does not mean that I am a teacher, yet. Also I am going to school for Technology Education. I will teach future engineers. One thing in the curriculum is teaching that engineers do theory work and technologists do hands on work. You said most engineers are poor spellers and writers. I would think otherwise. Also I would hope that an engineer would understand that little risk does not equal no risk. Maybe this logic that engineers have is why disasters such as the Tacoma Narrows Bridge and the Big Dig is Boston happen.
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Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:14 AM
Fifty points to a_hoffman ;).
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Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:01 AM
nah, it's not that logic. It's the attitude that "I'm better than you, and I have a degee, therefore I can't be wrong." that causes those things to happen.

Note: This cannot be viewed as a personal attack since I didn't mention anyone specifically.....although if the shoe fits, wear it. :)

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Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:21 AM
It is clear that dannerman has a "degee" in typing ;). It's threads like this that make me happy I read the forums every once in a while. Silly people running around bragging about their good grades (not talking about hoffman in case you're wondering), good grades don't make you smarter than everybody, they just indicate that you're a good boy and do your work when the nice teacher tells you to. Congratulations, you're doing well in school, unfortunately I just ate my last cookie so... none for you.
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Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:06 PM
Joe, that was intentional and poking fun of the arrogant attitude. ;)
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Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:08 PM
Meh, nothing like watching testosterone run amuck on the boards. ;-)

It's more entertaining watching men have conversations like this at enthusiast events. It sort of reminds you of Charlie Brown talking to his teacher on the phone....

"wa, wa, wa, wa, wa!"

While you guys bicker and fuss about otherwise trivial stuff about coasters we chicks will just wanna RIDE! All we care about is how it FEELS, not what the technicalities are.

At least our wood and steel *men* keep their mouths shut and do what they are supposed to do....satisfy our every need instead of worrying about which one is bigger, taller, better looking and more satisfying than the other one. ;-)

In other words, get over it! Stop fussing and just go ride, guys! It's not the end of the world.

-Tina

<---getting of my Diva soapbox now. :-D

*** Edited 9/22/2005 4:28:03 PM UTC by coasterqueenTRN***

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Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:46 PM
LOL Tina. This whole conversation has been pretty funny...frustrating, but funny. I think Beast Tamer's last name must be "Wall"...because some of us feel like we're talking to one ;)
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Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:49 PM
That might not be a good thing though, Moosh. When I get upset, I usually punch a wall out of frustration. ;)
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Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:12 PM
yeah but in the end the wall is the thing breaking your fist :O
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Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:18 PM
Well I for one just hope this thread doesn't end up longer than The Beast because that would be disrespectful!

-Jimvy! ;)

*edit cos capitalisation is my friend!
*** Edited 9/22/2005 5:19:26 PM UTC by invy***

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Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:28 PM
I had a 2.7 GPA in high school because I was bored with it and din't do the work. My ACT score was 28 (better than 96% of the kids that took it that year). Yeah, grades aren't a measure of anything.
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Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:41 PM
I think there's more than one wall and a few broken records on this thread, moosh.

You have to figure that when people pile on, the guy at the bottom the pile figures he has to answer every comment directed his way. Therefore, about 7 people are now on page 3 arguing the difference between insignificant and none.

I don't care if people argue about things in here, this place would be awfully dull if they didn't. But at least people should argue in a somewhat civil way. The name calling and personal attacks should have no place here, unless it's Kieran Burke :) j/k.

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Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:43 PM
Have you ever had an employer ask about your GPA? I haven't! Means nothing.
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Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:59 PM
But your GPA's all that you have going for you moosh ;)
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Thursday, September 22, 2005 3:19 PM
RGB - I can't speak for others but I do think I've been civil in this thread. I'll go back and check but I don't remember calling Beast Tamer any names. Certainly none of my posts were in an angry tone, something I know is often hard to tell without vocal inflection.

As for your dislike of this thread: if why not just mark it 'read' and move on? That's what I do to other threads I have no interest in. Until one of the mods closes it the discussion is on-topic and acceptible. No one is forcing you to read this thread, are they? ;)

*** Edited 9/22/2005 7:20:35 PM UTC by Mamoosh***

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