Rocket Coaster for Liseberg

Wednesday, September 8, 2004 7:00 AM
Skandinavia is more and more becoming the new european coaster Eldorado.

Two years after BALDER, Liseberg will build a launched coaster with inversions for the next season.
It will replace the Vekoma Invertigo prototype, which was removed because of crappiness. ;)

"KANONEN" (Canon) will be quite small with a lengths of about 1600ft (500m) and a launch speed in the 50mph (85 km/h) range. It will feature at least one inversion.

I don´t know if it is an Intamin, but that´s what everybody thinks.
If you are capable of reading swedish (lots of funky circles over vowels) here is a link for you:

While this is a nice addition, the guests of Finlands Särkänniemi Park will be treated to the endless joy of yet another Volare installation in 2005.

Wednesday, September 8, 2004 9:04 AM
And this is home of the excellent looking Schwarzkopf/Zierer/BHS Bavarian Mt Railway also.
Wednesday, September 8, 2004 9:13 AM
I thought that the Vekoma Invertigos weren't that bad?
Wednesday, September 8, 2004 9:19 AM
Two I've been on were fairly good, actually, Rob.
Wednesday, September 8, 2004 1:11 PM
PKI's isn't bad but I've been greying out on it lately and that freaks me out. ;)

I'd have to say greying out a lot of Face/Off isn't nearly as bad as being stuck on the second Deja Vu lift at SFOG for 15 minutes facing the sky and not knowing why the heck is going on... Getting stuck on the Villain lift for that long wasn't *that* freaky. ;)


Wednesday, September 8, 2004 1:18 PM
I didn't just grey out on it, Danny, I straight blacked out till we were half way thru the cobra roll that day!

But I don't mind, it was a mind altering experience that I really enjoyed, and didn't have to do anything but ride a coaster to have that happen:).

Wednesday, September 8, 2004 1:36 PM
Wasn't Hangover replaced by Baulder for the 03 season? IIRC it was shipped off to a park in Greece where it operated for a while but was quickly dismantled & put up for sale afterward.
Wednesday, September 8, 2004 1:47 PM
No, this picture shows what used to be where Balder is:
Wednesday, September 8, 2004 3:35 PM
They got rid of Invertigo because it was a technical mess. Planned as the prototype with frictionless lifts it failed completely. The lifts and the cobra roll had to be shipped back to Vekoma were it was completely rebuilt. The ride opened one year too late and alledgedly was never really working reliably.

It was taken out when Balder opened. The Rocket Coaster will now fill the vacancy of a looping coaster.
With the awesome Balder and the brilliant Lisebergbanan Liseberg will soon have a small but worldclass coaster-ensemble!

They will move the TopSpin to make room for the station. It will launch over a river which runs through the park and will then twist and turn behing Balder before returning to the station.

Thursday, September 9, 2004 2:53 AM
I'm really curious of the layout. 500m(1800ft) isn't much for a launched coaster that completes a full circuit. Xcelerator is currently the shortest with 670m(2200ft). Storm Runner, that probably resembles Kanonen more is 790 metres(2600ft). BTW, here's a nifty calculation that can be made with our current information:

Storm Runner launch speed: 120km/h(75mp/h)
Kanonen launch speed: 80 km/h(50mp/h)

Storm Runner's length: 790m(2600ft)
Kanonen's lenght: ~500m(1800ft)

If the same formula applies, the possible tophat would be around 30m(100ft) in height. Track lenght after the tophat would be around 30% shorter, so 2 elements against SR's 3 sounds correct. However, SR apparently really flies over its tophat so Kanonen's tophat may be slightly taller in case Liseberg wants it to be more like TTD's or Xcelerator's tophats in terms of pacing.

I'm not really buying the possibility of there not being a tophat. It's one of the most thrilling things that can be done with accelerators so why not include it. I have no idea of the ride's future location, but I have a hunch that it might be a straight tophat a'la Hypersonic XLC with no twisting on either spike. I'm not sure about the loop as the second inversion, but let's see the layout before saying more about the subject.

Edit: also, if the same formula applies for the cost, Kanonen would be somewhere around 8 million dollars. Of course, the launch mechanism probably stays the same so the formula probably doesn't apply. Anyway, whatever the actual number is, this coaster is quite a large investment for a park of Liseberg's size. Especially since they just built the 9-10 million dollar Balder. *** Edited 9/9/2004 7:04:03 AM UTC by Drift***

Thursday, September 9, 2004 7:28 AM
"Anyway, whatever the actual number is, this coaster is quite a large investment for a park of Liseberg's size"

Lisebergs yearly attendance shares a spot with Cedar Point and Europapark. (around 3.1 - 3.5 million per year)! But you are right about the actual size, its much smaller than the other two. :)

The latest news I have heard speak of a vertical loop and an inline roll as the two inversions of Kanonen.
Your calculations are very intersting ;)

Thursday, September 9, 2004 12:23 PM
Liseberg draws that much people? I would've guessed something around 1,5-2 million. It does put things to different perspective (and makes me wonder how the park does it).
Thursday, September 9, 2004 3:26 PM
WOW! Doesn´t look too shabby for its size and speed.
This will be a short but sweet thrill!

It seems that the Tophat becomes one of the most varied elements.

Sizewise it appears to be comparable to the AquaTrax in Korea.

The scandinavian inner-city parks are extremely popular and successful.

Tivoli is in the 4 million range (they had their busiest summer this year after installing Daemonen)

And even Bakken is a big player with 2.5 million visitors.

Thursday, September 9, 2004 3:35 PM
looks like a fun little ride. I want one of these here in the us somewhere.

Just out of curiosity (not to nitpick) does it have a straight drop or a curved one? In one of the pictures it looks straight, and in others it looks to turn to varying degrees.

Thursday, September 9, 2004 3:44 PM
In the rendering, it shows a twisting drop. The two other shots are of Storm Runner, just heavily photoshopped.

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