RITA (intamin rocket) started testing at Alton Towers

gyjdnb, no. What I meant is, CP markets to a much larger audience than Alton does so a small underwhelming ride wouldnt draw in new people, where at a park like Alton a small ride keeps their regulars coming back. I hope that makes sense.

IMO it has the otsr's because of the quick transitions. Just beause if how tall or fast it is doesn't make it have otsr or not. Look how fast it changes directions. Thats what I think.

Yes, Richard...which is why I originally replied that it was NOT a rumor but in fact a JOKE, something it seems you failed to distinguish.

Rumours and jokes are, in the coaster world, one and the same for the most part. The Arrow shuttle loops have a reverse launch. With a suitable restraint design (read: Neck Brace!) it might well be possible to launch backwards at a higher speed.

Anyway, this is already on the edge of turning into a flamewar, so this will be my last reply on this topic.

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cofan101 said:
IMO it has the otsr's because of the quick transitions. Just beause if how tall or fast it is doesn't make it have otsr or not. Look how fast it changes directions. Thats what I think.

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There're a lot of coasters with faster transitions that don't need OTSR's. The Chiller comes to mind immediately, as does S:RoS SFNE.

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...as does S:RoS SFNE.

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Which has killed someone who slipped out of the restraint. What cofan101 said makes sense.

If quick transitions was a reason for having OTSRs on a coaster, then Mummy at USF would need them - it all just comes down to the fact that Intamin had a poorly designed lap bar in the past that directly resulted in several rider ejections and deaths.

I bet parks would choose the OTSRs nowadays on Intamin rides just based on avoiding any type of negative PR. What media would research the design change of Intamin's lapbars and seats from the SROS rides to TTD? I bet none, and there would probably be some stories about the ride being similar to another few from the same manufacturer that ejected riders in the past.

For this reason, I could totally see why Kingda Ka has OTSRs, especially with it being so close to SROS and "pushing the limits" - I'm sure it will have a whole bunch of safety concern articles written on it if it already hasn't, and OTSRs eliminate the concern over people flying off the ride and it being associated with a negative incident in the past.

And similarly, RITA is somewhat close to Hydro, so I could see why they might have chosen them as well.

I bet OTSRs on rockets might be something we see for now, or a few years, but I also bet that it's up to the park to decide and isn't necessarily a manufacturer recommendation - but that is just my opinion.

In the end, nobody is going to convince me that RITA needs OTSRs. There are plenty of rides that do way more severe transitions and elements (wood coasters included) that have not ejected riders - ever. It's just an Intamin thing.

Since when did I become so openly opinionated anyways?? :)

Since you met Joe? ;)

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gyjdnb said:
'Alton Towers will be running one train backwards so you can take RITA from behind"

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Oh, so it's a clone of M:TR then?

-Jimvy! (soz Mooshie, couldn't resist it ;))

Bring it on, beeyatch! ;)

LOL tease - I'm just trying to keep me hand in!

-Jimvy!:)

1. Look how fast it banks after the launch. Man that is like a launch to the side. It just throws you.

2. Look at the last hill into the brakes. Those need OTSR's. At superman krypton at SFFT, we have that kind of element. Lapbars won't hold you in for it. If you are in the front, man its like a launch into space without the cars. Its a fast stop.

3. Also those coasters with quick transitions don't transition as fast as this one. You are going 60 mph and onto your side in under a quarter of a second.

Overall, it needs the OTSR's

"What I meant is, CP markets to a much larger audience than Alton does so a small underwhelming ride wouldnt draw in new people, where at a park like Alton a small ride keeps their regulars coming back. I hope that makes sense"

Your kidding right eightdotthree. Are you trying to Patronise us Brits.

I will try and reply to that politely-

While i am not suggesting that Alton towers has the same number or size of rides that Cedar point does- far from it, their rides are certainly of a similar standard of quality. nemesis,oblivion,air and rita are certainly top quality coasters. Yes they are not the biggest or the fastest, but then the British tend not to be obsessed by size, as perhaps our American cousins do.

I cant' understand why you call RITA a small underwhleming ride?? Yes its no TTD but it is not underwhelming- You cant make that judgement- yet- no one has ridden it. It is a very large investment (not sure on its final price) i think 7 million pounds- so that is 13 million dollars. Small change, i dont think so. This is coming from a park who built a coaster last year as well. The point had a quiet year last on the construction front, and are not spending huge again this year either.

If anything Alton has a larger potenial market than Cedar point. Over 50 million people live within a 4 hour drive of the park. I don't belive that Cedar can say that. Britain is one of the most densely populated countries in the world.

So please try not to live up to that American stereotype who believes that his country is the best in world and wont open his mind to other possibilities.

Rant over- am breathing now. Not too harsh i hope.

Anyone who has ridden RITA and can tell us how it is raise their hand....

Just what I thought. Everyone is arguing a ride that hadn't even opened yet!