Riders stuck at top of Perilous Plunge

I don't think they would invest $25 million on MF and not let it work right.

I was there yesterday, and boy was Knott's having an off day. I'm sorry you had to deal with that Taipan.

Lets see... my brother and I got on Boomerang, only to have it break down in the station with us on it. It was resolved in a few minutes.

Next, it was Xcelerator going down. I sure am glad we hit it first thing! It didn't open for the rest of the day. Just when I thought it was becoming reliable. :) Good luck, Cedar Point!

In line for Ghostrider, the ride got stuck at the bottom of the lift for 5 minutes.

The Log Ride broke down, (I really wanted to see the holiday theme they had on it one last time). That is pretty rare for the Log Ride to break down, but it was down pretty for all of the afternoon.

Next, we were on Hammerhead, and the ride couldn't seem to line up with the station correctly. A few minutes later, (stuck in those evil restraints) we got free. Just as we got off, we noticed good ol' Perilous Plunge stuck in a...rather perilous position-stopped right before the drop!

I think they evacuated the riders quickly, but the boat remained up there for the remainder of the day.

All in all, I had fun, but I'm sure Knott's was glad to see this day end! (Wow, this pretty much became a TR!)

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Actually, from what I understand, rollercoaster chains wear out or need replacement about every 2 or 3 years. The cable for the cable lift was NOT by any means supposed to last forever. While the projected time of the cable was mentioned in this topic already (4 years, I don't know where that information is from but it may very well be true) two years is about how long a chain would last, therefore, the cable snap was by no means a malfunction, it was expected and a con to every coaster with a lift mechanism.

I would also like to inform you that Batman TR's chain snapped this year at SFGAm, that doesn't make B&M faulty.

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Ouch, sounds like one of those days we all have sometimes! Maybe they will be rewarded with an easy day today!

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- "I used to be in the audio/visual club, but I was kicked out because of my views on Vietnam........and I was stealing projectors" - Homer Simpson

ALF is cool, when the hell did I ever say that?

There was no SF bashing in this thread, so I didn't mention it. I think if you're going to bash any park/chain, you need to have some decent facts to back it up. It would have been ridiculous to say "If you don't have facts to back it up, don't complain about CF/SF/Paramount/Busch/Tussauds/Kennywood/Universal/Disney/etc". Maybe you should take a breath before insinuating things (especially since you obviously haven't been paying attention to discussion around here lately).

-Nate

Everything except the Log ride and perilous plunge happens EVERY DAY. And does bommerang breaking down for 5 minutes really constitute a breakdown (think of what a break down is in a car)? Same with Ghostrider stuck on the lift (all they have to do is restart the lift), which the ride ops do themselves usually. All that has to happen with hammerhead whenever that happens (happened once while I was on it) is to call a ride mechanic (the gal did take 7 minutes to come, which was most of the time spent waiting), and then manually reposition the ride in the proper position. The ride ops were probably not glad to see the day end, I mean the mechanics probably had to stay working on Perilous Plunge, the log ride, and Xcelerator all night long (they will probably be open today, maybe late opening). Be glad people weren't falling off of Perilous Plunge or wood breaking loose on Ghostrider and smacking people at 45 MPH. What exactly happened to the log ride? I have NEVER seen it breakdown. And can they E-Stop the ride by draining it real fast like they can do with some log rides (Splash Mtn) and many river raft rides?

Ok, rollercoaster chains DO NOT need replacing every two or three years. For a specific example, T-Wolf has had the same chain since 89. I am sure Ride Man can give more specifics about life expectancy for chains, but I have rarely witnessed coaster chains being replaced...that is unless they snapped. Cables, much more common. As for the elevator comment, if the cable did fail, there is a backup mechanism (although with the number of elevators in operation and the excellent maintanence they receive...that is a scary thought). Cables in general have a greater weakness to wear.

coasterdude318 said:
ALF is cool, when the hell did I ever say that?

Had to quote the swearing. Anyways, Nate, I think he said that as a general statement, but I know you saw that. I assume that it is because this Beeyatch said those remarks and it was almost common knowledge that there would be a list of people who would disagree. Had someone said that about SF, then it would have been like "I agree, they suck at taking care of their parks." I doubt he was making a statement on you or anyone directly but wrather a general statement. Maybe you should take a breath before insinuating things. No offense to you, but I highly doubt he was insinuating things. Hmm, I like that word now, insinuating.

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"If two coaster trains almost hit each other, why is it called a near miss and not a near hit?"

coasterdude, I was only saying that because OTHER people always rip on Six Flags for no reason. Without justifiable facts. But yet, it seems it is ok to bash SF. But when Cedar Point/Cedar Fair get bashed, all has gone to hell. Cedar Point is not the best park ever. Yes, it is nice, but not the best. So, don't go snapping on me.

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"Some people spend an entire LIFETIME wondering if they made a DIFFERENCE. The MARINES don't have that problem." -President Reagan 1985

I thought I was the Beeyatch around here... Nate wins (Hiss)! Rob was right, you did say those things. Now stop flaming and go take a time-out (and a nap).

It does seem more likely that the car was stuck at the top for the remainder of the day without riders than with.

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It's Giant, it's Inverted, it's a Boomerang, Beeyatch!

Okay, heres what westcoaster is now reporting: The boat stopped RIGHT before the drop, on the turnaround. Riders were evacuated very quickly, ending in 30 minutes. The boat stayed at the top all day long. Other rides that broke down: Hammerhead (quick), Bommerang (quick fix), Ghostrider (quick fix), Xcelerator (lots of breakdowns, and closed for the rest of the day after 2nd breakdown), the log ride (major, ride shut down for the day), and of course Perilous plunge.

G'day again. Reporting from the Star Princess cruise liner enroute to Mexico. When we get back I'm going to SFMM on the 12th Sunday if anyone wants to join me.

Better make this quick, it's $0.50 a minute!

Ta for the comments. Skimmed most of the posts above. There is no catwalk next to the turn before the drop. So they had to prop a stepladder on the back & get the riders out one by one & walk on the track itself to the lifthill stairs. First they spent 30 mins trying to move the boat then had to resort to the above. It took just as long to get down the stairs, they sure didn't want anyone to get hurt. The whole thing took around 2 hours. There was a whole crowd watching & I took some pics but may have to wait till I get back down under to do so.

Signing off now,

Cheers.

All I can say is lucky duck. If only the weather were a lot warmer here, then I'd be wishing I was over there (though I wish I was there, coasting all day long anyway :)).

If you happen to be going skiing over there - head to Kirkwood on Lake Tahoe. My brother who I think you've met is working there, and I'm sure would be happy to see you.

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So what if the best coaster in Australia is a second hand Arrow?

Rob, Boomer Beeyatch, Ptboy, and others:

I direct you to this thread. Say what you want, but it *was* insinuated that I somehow endorse bashing SF but not CF. That's simply not the case, and yeah I get pissed right off when people accuse me of being a typical CP Fanboy or whatnot (because I absolutely am not!). I was simply stating that his bashing of CF was completely unwarranted because it wasn't backed up in any way. That does not mean I endorse bashing SF just because I stood up for CF once. On the contrary, I would have posted the same thing if it had been SF bashing.

In short, I do not believe it's okay to bash any park without any justifiable facts. And by quoting me and then asking if it was okay to bash SF by *direcly referring to* my quote, you're insinuating that I somehow said that - and I didn't.

As for chain snaps and whatnot, it may not be "extremely common" as I stated (poor wording on my part). It is hardly an unusual thing when it happens, though. And sorry Matt, but I have a really hard time believing Timber Wolf has used the same chain for thirteen years. It was probably replaced in the off season - probably several times.

-Nate

you still need a nap.

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It's Giant, it's Inverted, it's a Boomerang, Beeyatch!

Has anyone ever bashed a park or park chain just for fun? Maybe some immature idiot with too much time on thier hands, but most people do go to parks expecting to have fun. I know I wouldn't spend $50 just to say something sucks, what a waste of time and money. Most people have reasonable cause for their opinions. My only pet peeve is when people generalize for dramatic effect. No park, no chain, nobody *always* does *anything*. Cedar Fair isn't perfect, and even Six Flags gets it right sometimes. They'd have to, even if it's by accident.

All I'd ask is we stop with the generalizing, it feels like cheating to me.

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"All generalizations, including this one, are false."

I didn't come up with it, and I don't remember who did, but I sure seem to say it a lot...!

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Actually, ride chains can last a long time. Rather than replacing a chain every two or three years, which would be very expensive and not necessary 90% of the time, most parks will replace individual links in the chain as needed. If properly maintained I would indeed believe that Timber Wolf has had the same chain since '89. For the record, a 5/16" stainless steel braided cable, rated at 9000 lbs, lasts about 3 years.

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