revolution designer

Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:45 PM
Is the new ride at SFGAm zamperla? This ride looks strikingly similar to the kmg afterburner, and to the chance one as well.
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Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:58 PM
The Revolution is a Huss Frisbee being moved from SFGAdv where it was known as Pendelum
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Thursday, January 29, 2004 1:15 PM
The Chance Revolution is identical to the KMG Afterburner. But the Frisbee is different from both. For starters, it has a floor. It also focuses a whole lot more on spinning than on swinging, like the Afterburner tends to.

-Nate

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Thursday, January 29, 2004 1:27 PM
I also saw that zamperla offers seating both inwards and outwards. Do kmg and chance also offer this in their lineup of rides?
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Thursday, January 29, 2004 1:44 PM
No. As far as I know, Zamperla does not offer outward seating on their inverted frisbee variants. They do on their Disko, but that's a bit different. It certainly is a spawn of the Frisbee-type rides, but it's on a track, not suspended.

-Nate

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Thursday, January 29, 2004 2:02 PM
here is the link. check it out.http://www.zamperla.it/ look for discovery
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Thursday, January 29, 2004 5:04 PM
Wow, you're right. I'm familiar with the Discovery, and even checked the website earlier today and didn't see anything, but I didn't look at the pictures either. It seems odd they don't list that option on the site, but I don't understand half the things that company does. :)

-Nate

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Thursday, January 29, 2004 7:21 PM
La Ronde got a Discovery last year in their ride package. The Frisbee can spin in two directions (clockwise, counter-clockwise--the second direction produces the most G forces), where the Afterburner/Revolution only spins in one direction, but goes much higher. Pendulum was fun, but short. The Frisbee at SFFT has a much better program. *** Edited 1/30/2004 12:22:49 AM UTC by Intamin Fan***
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Thursday, January 29, 2004 9:56 PM
Actually, I believe La Ronde's ride is a Zamperla Nitro. It's a decent ride, but the shoulder restraints suck (like on all Zampela rides). The Afterburner is far superior.

-Nate *** Edited 1/30/2004 2:56:26 AM UTC by coasterdude318***

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Thursday, January 29, 2004 11:18 PM
I can't speak on LaRonde's for sure, but here is how Zamperla's inverted Frisbee series breaks down:

Nitro (20 seats, inner-facing seating): Mighty Bluegrass Shows and Martin's Fantasy Island

Discovery (24 seats, inner-facing seating): LaRonde (I believe) and Prater

Disovery 30 (30 seats, outside seating): A park in Japan whose name I don't know

Adam

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Friday, January 30, 2004 1:14 AM

coasterdude318 said:
It's a decent ride, but the shoulder restraints suck (like on all Zampela rides). The Afterburner is far superior.


I don't think all their restraints are horrible. I think the Hawk and Power Surge restraints (which are the same) are great, and the Turbo Force is fine also. The only ones I don't like are on the Rotoshake and Energy Storm.
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Friday, January 30, 2004 2:03 AM
Aren't they all the same on all of their rides? I certainly don't remember riding a Zamperla with different restraints. The problem is the way they're shaped and the fact that they're rock hard. Instead of having flat bottoms, Zamperla OTSRs have ridges that run alongside your neck and really dig into your inner shoulders, especially on rides like the Rotoshake where you fall into the restraint.

There is a similar problem on the Power Surge, though at least you're not hanging upside down for periods of time like the Rotoshake. If the ridges weren't there, and they were a little softer, my only Zamperla problems would be that they run just plain
too slow...but that's a whole other discussion. :)

Edit: I forgot to note that, according to what Adam said, La Ronde's ride is in fact a Discovery. But I do distinctly remember press releases, among other things, claiming it would be a Nitro. There's no mistaking 24 seats, though...

-Nate
*** Edited 1/30/2004 7:04:45 AM UTC by coasterdude318***

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Friday, January 30, 2004 8:48 PM
Its was always meant to be a Discovery as far as I know. The GP love the ride! Its was quite a success and since we never saw anything like it before... (closest whould be Psyclone at PCW... which I felt was terrible...).

You know what's sad? When you have 2 carnival company in Quebec and both have the same rides!The "star" attraction for both is a single arm Chance Inverter. After that, Beauce Carnaval I believe still has a travelling Chance Sky Diver (the ferris wheel with diving, spinning cars... evil!)

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Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:53 AM

coasterdude318 said:
Aren't they all the same on all of their rides? I certainly don't remember riding a Zamperla with different restraints.

Many of their rides have different OTSR's. Trust me, I've ridden many models. The Rotoshake and the Mixer have the same restraints; the OTSR with the attached secondary lap bar with pins. The Hawk and Power Surge have the same restraint; the OTSR with seatbelt. The Engery Storm is completely different from all the designs above, as is the Turbo Force. I can't vouch for any of their other designs.

There is a similar problem on the Power Surge, though at least you're not hanging upside down for periods of time like the Rotoshake. If the ridges weren't there, and they were a little softer, my only Zamperla problems would be that they run just plain
too slow...but that's a whole other discussion. :)


Take your butt to Coney Island, I've been told, and the Power Surge run too slow problem apparently goes away. One of these days I'll get there also to experience their evil Breakdance.

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Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:49 AM
Oh, I'd definitely love to experience that - one of the few Power Surges that actually run in two directions, I've been told. But still, I've ridden a Power Surge or two on the fair circuit (which usually runs rides a whole lot faster than parks) and I wasn't impressed by the restraints. Let me just say it's a good ride that could benefit by some more comfortable restraints.

-Nate

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Saturday, January 31, 2004 1:41 PM
The Power Surge at Coney ran in both directions with its previous owner. However, on my last visits (in its first season) it was only running one direction. That could have changed now. As I understand it that is the only Power Surge built to run in that manner (it was owned by a European showman, which is why it has a wierd-looking trailer).

Coney's runs about as fast as most of the fair ones I ahve been on (Reithoffer, Myer's International Midways and Mighty Bluegrass Shows). I think if they would just reduce the size of the restraint a touch and make it out of a material with a softer outer-layer it could make a world of difference.

Adam

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Saturday, January 31, 2004 5:06 PM

Intamin Fan said:
(clockwise, counter-clockwise--the second direction produces the most G forces)

How does the direction matter?


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Saturday, January 31, 2004 6:25 PM
The second direction is where the Frisbee reaches its highest height, as well as its maximum spin (you quickly find out why they call it a "Frisbee"). Hence to say, you're glued against the back of the seat.
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Saturday, January 31, 2004 8:02 PM
shouldn't the force be either way,
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Saturday, January 31, 2004 10:15 PM
It just happens to spin faster one direction as a finale. Direction doesn't matter.
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