Review: Twisted Colossus at Six Flags Magic Mountain

While I'm sure that of the 2 new ones, WC is the better ride, [edit: I should have said "enthusiast favorite"] I'm somehow more excited for this one. It's the interactive racing element that adds excitement for me.

We're going to try and hit both of them this summer.

Why are you sure Wicked Cyclone is the better ride?

Edited my above post to reflect what I really meant.

I feel that comparing the 2, with the reason for the comparo being that they are the 2 new Iron Horse conversions of 2015, Cyclone will be the enthusiast favorite. It looks to be much more intense, more forceful, and an overall "crazier" ride. Colossus looks to be more graceful, less snappy, due to the larger size of the elements, and has a huge breather in between sections. I also feel that the racing will make it very exciting. Racing coasters are always more fun. It's pretty much the only thing that makes Gemini tolerable, after all.

I feel an accurate analogy would be the 2 Iron Horse conversions in Texas. NTG seems to be the enthusiast favorite because of its longer duration, intense forces, and again, it's a "crazy" ride. Iron Rattler reviews seem to say it's too short, too slow, and not intense enough. We recently rode the 2 of them within a few days of each other, and I much preferred IR. Ask me to compare IR to NTG and I would say it's better paced, more graceful, and has a great "flow" to it. NTG, IMO, is just a bit much. A few years ago we took 2 back to back rides (empty seat re-ride) and I was approaching nausea at the end. A 3rd would have ruined me. Yet I can, and did, ride IR all day long.

So yeah, I think that the enthusiasts who make it to both coasts will say that Cyclone is a better ride, but I predict I will like Colossus better.

I think Cyclone will be much better than NTG though.

I think a better comparison would be SFM Medusa vs Iron Rattler.

I get that we are pre wired to immediately start comparing rides. But I honestly don't care which is better. TC is a three run homer, and WC is a grand slam. Both parks have winners.

No matter what, any rmc a park has gotten so far has been a winner.

I had the chance to talk with Alan Schilke for a while at WC media day and i asked him about the rmc coasters built to date. He said he would much rather build them from the ground up instead of doing remakes. He also said his favorite one is Goliath, but he also said he hasn't ridden medusa and wc still has to be broken in. He said his original plans for tc had a dual station but sf didn't want to staff 2 stations so the mobius track was born. He said it will be hard to have them race consistently due to the loading time. I asked him when they will start building coasters at parks not named six flags and he said they are only doing one more for sf which will open next year but didn't say which park.

CarolinaNick15 said:

No matter what, any rmc a park has gotten so far has been a winner.

My train has yet to to make it to the second half of Goliath.

I agree that goliath is way too short. It seems that stats werw the only thing in mind. What it has is good though.

gamerguy said:

mobius

It's not a moebius coaster.

Even Alan Schilke (Is this the guy from Arrow Dynamics that brought us X and so many other rides? Is he part of RMC now?) is calling Twisted Colossus a Möbius loop coaster? It's not... The ride starts and finishes in the exact same spot. on a true Möbius coaster if you boarded the train in the left station, you'd unload in the right station, and vice versa... Both racing "sides" formed one continuous circuit, you only rode half of the track each cycle. On TC you ride the entire track each ride cycle.

In another example of "everything old is new again," we debated this a while back on CoasterBuzz...

http://coasterbuzz.com/Forums/Topic/the-mobius-coaster

CarolinaNick15 said:

I agree that goliath is way too short. It seems that stats werw the only thing in mind. What it has is good though.

People seem to forget it's longer than Outlaw Run?

I remember when Raven opened and some argued that its length detracted from its appeal.

I begged to differ...still do.

Rick_UK said:

CarolinaNick15 said:

I agree that goliath is way too short. It seems that stats werw the only thing in mind. What it has is good though.

People seem to forget it's longer than Outlaw Run?

Outlaw run doesn't have as much speed and seems to do more than just drop, turn, dive loop, zg stall, turn, brakes. But yeah, both rmc woodies could do more. Too bad wildfire at Kolmarden got cancelled. That seemed very long.

gamerguy said:

......... he said they are only doing one more for sf which will open next year but didn't say which park.

BOSS!! One can hope...

In defense of the Boss, and I admittedly rode it in the front, it is one absolutely fantastic ride. RMC could simply change the track to their style and keep the layout the same and it would still be amazing.

An Iron Horsing of the Boss would still make the ride better. Think like this The Ultimate Boss. As long as they don't touch El Toro.