Retrofit Drachen fire's trains onto L.M. ?

Monday, February 11, 2002 4:33 AM
I think it would be a nice homage to Drachen Fire to at least retro fit Lochness Monster's trains with Drachen Fire's. The DF trains are at least a little more modern.
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Monday, February 11, 2002 4:36 AM
Aren't the trains one of the reasons for the horrible ride anyway??
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Monday, February 11, 2002 4:39 AM
Transitions are the cause. Remember BG removed one of the corkscrew inversions.Besides, the same train are on the Cyclone and The Circus Circus coasters and have no problems.

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Monday, February 11, 2002 5:02 AM
Nessie runs perfectly as is.  If it ain't broke, don't fix it. 
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Monday, February 11, 2002 5:12 AM
The DF trains are less restrictive it wouls make Nessy a better ride experience.

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Monday, February 11, 2002 6:39 AM
It would be nice to see those trains go somewhere... if not LM, then perhaps one of those Arrow multi-loopers at the Six Flags parks?
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Monday, February 11, 2002 6:43 AM
VIPER, VIPER, VIPER, Come on SFMMM Viper needs new trains.

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Monday, February 11, 2002 1:38 PM
No it doesn't. Compared to all the other old school Arrow multi-inversion coasters, Viper is tolerable. Rides like ShockWave, GASM, Python are in craving need for new trains or restraints. Either that or they need to be scrapped altogether. Quickly.
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Monday, February 11, 2002 3:00 PM
To see DF's trains repainted green, and the running lights changed to yellow would look really sweet on Lochness
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Monday, February 11, 2002 5:09 PM
My thoughts exactly.
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Monday, February 11, 2002 5:16 PM
I do not know how well the DF trains would navigate the other arrow loopers. Lets remember that the train design was a custom designed suited specificially for DF, since regular Arrow trains did not have the right guage or the manueverablitity. Anyways, it is highly unlikely we will see this happen. I really loved the sleek DF train design especially the tracer lights on the vehicles.
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Monday, February 11, 2002 5:20 PM
It won't happen...  These are the kinds of things we as enthusiasts want.  LM is fine the way it is..........
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Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:22 AM
sethman, yes, the Drachen Fire trains were built specially for Drachen Fire, but mechancially they are not significantly different from the earlier Arrow trains. I think the gauge is the same, the basic configuration is the same, and in fact the only truly significant difference is in the car body, with the different body style.

Hence the subsequent use of that train style on later Arrow coasters (Canyon Blaster, for instance). When the style was introduced, there was talk about Arrow trying to sell those trains as an update for some of their older rides. Trouble is, the old trains were working just fine, thank you...! The only coaster I can think of that logically might have got the new bodies (and didn't) was Steel Phantom when they switched from the yellow cars to the blue ones.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:51 AM
Also you'd think Tennessee Tornado would of had the new train.
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Tuesday, February 12, 2002 5:41 AM
I never understood why the Steel Phantom changed car bodies, was it just to change the color?  Weren't the replacement bodies the same as the original bodies?
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Tuesday, February 12, 2002 6:21 AM
If it ain't broke...
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Tuesday, February 12, 2002 6:22 AM

Rob Ascough said:
I never understood why the Steel Phantom changed car bodies, was it just to change the color?  Weren't the replacement bodies the same as the original bodies?

If my memory serves me correctly, they actually got new trains do to the wear and tear that ride inflicted on them.  Is this right?

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Tuesday, February 12, 2002 2:25 PM
It would be nice to see LM with DF trains.  At 6'3" and growing, I'm having trouble getting into LM.  Although I don't know it for a fact, I'm guessing that the DF trains a bit bigger.
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Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:15 PM
How do we know that Drachen Fire is going to get completly torn to pieces? How do we know it didn't get sold somewhere? Why would BGW tear down a ride that was selling for some # of millions and then just get like close to nothing for melted down metal? I find it highly unlikely that BGW will tear it down in the same fashion of Windjammer. The problem was roughness and down time. Drachen fire's only problem that I know of was roughness. I have said it before and I will say it again, I think Great Escape will get Drachen Fire.
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Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:18 PM
The chassis of the phantom trains are the same, just the shells are different, in fact someone has a couple on here and posted a pic of it a while ago.
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