Replacement for Kennywood's Phantom

Friday, April 14, 2000 1:11 PM
I know that the park won't announce plans until January, but does anyone know any rumors about the new coaster?
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Friday, April 14, 2000 2:29 PM
B&M or Arrow hyper? I sure hope so!
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Friday, April 14, 2000 4:10 PM
There are a few schools of thought on this. One is that Kennywood wants another wood coaster from CCI to use the terrain. Another is that any steel coaster company could come in remove everything but the second drop and build an awesome hypercoaster with a first drop that is built thus making costs less. The last is another steel looper this time smoother with 7 or 8 inversions compared to SP's 4. Time will tell.
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Friday, April 14, 2000 7:36 PM
I personally don't think Arrow will build anymore hypers any time soon. I also don't see them building another woodie at Kennywood. The B&M rumor still sounds good for me.

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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
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Friday, April 14, 2000 8:44 PM
Actually Jeff Arrow is in the development stages on an LIM launched super hyper in Japan.
It was written in a science magazine sometime last December that NASA also held an interest in the project.If I can dig the magazine up or find more info on the subject I`ll post it.:)
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Saturday, April 15, 2000 5:23 AM
I am sure Kennywood is planning something absolutely mind-blowing for their next coaster. They wouldn't give us some old technology or existing elements, I am sure it is going to be something DIFFERENT. They would and should have something like that planned because they would never remove the Steel Phantom and put something just a little better in.
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Sunday, April 16, 2000 8:45 AM
I'm thinking a ride that has a 300 Ft. or more first drop into the valley the sp used.

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Tuesday, April 18, 2000 7:32 AM
*cough*B&M dive machine*cough*


No, I DON'T know anything definite about the SP replacement. That's just what I'm currently rooting for... :)

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--Greg

http://www.pobox.com/~gregleg/
*** This post was edited by GregLeg on 4/18/2000. ***
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Tuesday, April 18, 2000 9:21 AM
And what perfect terrain to build such a beast without it taking up a lot of space.

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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
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Tuesday, April 18, 2000 11:21 AM
I personaly believe in the CCI 3-coaster deal theory. This is because of Kennywood's woodie heritage and the need for a good wooden coaster at either Sandcastle or Idlewild. Also, the poll on the Kennywood Unlimited webpage shows that wood is winning by a landslide.
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Tuesday, April 18, 2000 11:43 AM
A while ago I was thinking that Kennywood *could* surprise us with two coasters next year.

The rumored 3-coaster CCI deal, combined with the awesome design for Boulder Dash, would indicate that Kennywood COULD get a new wooden ride (and that CCI would use the terrain effectively :) )

But Kennywood has pretty much said they need a steel coaster to replace the Phantom.

Kennywood is tight on space, but not OUT of space. They COULD squeeze a new coaster in there with some creative layout (although they're going to be trying very hard to not affect the picnic pavillion area, I'm sure -- that part of the park is actually very important to their business).

There's also the talk about construction starting as early as this JULY -- that's a LOT of time to build a ride.

Add that all up, and it seems like Kennywood COULD conceivably be looking at multiple coasters. If not next year, then certainly in the next few, I think we'll see a few new big rides get worked into Kennywood Corp's "flagship" park...

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--Greg

http://www.pobox.com/~gregleg/
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Tuesday, April 18, 2000 11:47 AM
Has anyone ever heard anything about a coaster crossing in to that HUGE parking lot? We all know that steelies can occupy small footprints, so I'm curious.

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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
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Tuesday, April 18, 2000 12:37 PM
I think someone on rec.roller-coaster said that they read in an issue of Amusement Today that Kennywoods next coaster would be steel.

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The Samurai has spoken.
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Tuesday, April 18, 2000 8:48 PM
Jeff -- yes, using the parking lot has been talked about several times. Kennywood's main problem is that the entire lot fills up as it is, let alone losing some space. Preview day made it difficult to judge, but that lot gets PACKED (that ski lift is a godsend on busy days, it's NOT fun parking way up in the upper lots and walking down... :) )

In fact, there used to be a small pay lot where the Plunge, Exterminator, etc., are now. The entrance used to be there, under the Laser Loop (which ran where the first hill of Steel Phantom sits, you can still see the old LL footers from the Phantom's queue). The entrance gate was moved to the other side of the road and the walkway UNDER the road added when that lot was closed. My friends and I STILL refer to that area as the "front" of the park, actually ;)

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--Greg

http://www.pobox.com/~gregleg/
*** This post was edited by GregLeg on 4/19/2000. ***
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Tuesday, April 18, 2000 10:20 PM
As long as were on this subject, what is the height of the second hill on SP from the top of the cliff or hillside(whatever you want to call it) to the bottom?
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Wednesday, April 19, 2000 5:39 AM
225 feet.

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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
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Thursday, April 20, 2000 12:18 PM
Kennywood has been expanding but all those houses over near the Exterminator and Pitt Fall were bought by Kennywood and are home to employees. Kennywood could just get rid of some of those and bingo! More space.

And keep in mind, the Exterminator was the first ride ever to be built outside the original boundaries of Kennywood. That was 101 years without expanding!

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APC11
Co-webmaster/graphic designer: Kennywood Park Unlimited
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Thursday, April 20, 2000 1:48 PM
What is the deal with the Thunderbolt? It looks incredibly tame.
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Thursday, April 20, 2000 6:52 PM
Well, I haven't ridden it, but I hear evrywhere that it is the best ride ever. It has cool terrai features so it is copmpletely diff. then conventional coasters. For instance, it has a drop right out of the station and a 90ft. finale drop. Could dome true fans of The Thunderbolt help me with this one?
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Thursday, April 20, 2000 7:19 PM
Just got on for the first time last weekend, and it's in my top 5 easily. What a brilliant design and good old fashioned trains. The largest drop is indeed the last one. There is very good reason that the signs say to put the smaller person on the right, since all but one turn (the slowest one) is a right turn. Like everything at Kennywood, it just has a lot of character.

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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
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