Remember When Sims were in?

Monday, March 1, 2004 10:11 PM
I was thinking about how all those coaster and theme park shows of the mid to late 90's talked about how in a few years we would not be going to amusement parks, but would be doing the virtual reality thing...

you would have thought they got it, especially since every show had something about it! isnt it funny to see that virtual reality for the most part has gone the opposite direction. instead of more ridefilms, we have more rides that incorporate ridefilms (ie spiderman and the new mummy ride)

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Tuesday, March 2, 2004 12:51 AM
More likely, those shows you're thinking of were from the early 90s (e.g., Nova). I think they stopped speculating about virtual reality thrill rides after B:TR made the splash that it did, and the coaster boom really took off.

Obviously, they wanted to take a certain angle with their shows... that this new-fangled computerized stuff would overtake the classic, hardly-changed-for-a-century roller coaster. But they never anticipated the huge advances in traditional thrill ride technology. They seemed to think the Arrow Pipeline was it. Oops.

They should've waited ten years.

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Tuesday, March 2, 2004 1:05 AM
No, I know what Haiderodes is referring to. The Secret World of Amusement Park show on TLC came on in 1997 and toward the end of the program they talked about how arcades combined with virtual reality experiences will be the "new" amusement park attractions of the future. And of course, roller coasters are still king at least for the most part.

Another show was the very first Extreme Rides show that came on in 1996. They talked about how SIMS could take over as well. So those are two examples of shows that projected sims would take over post-B:TR era.

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Tuesday, March 2, 2004 1:18 AM
Now you're going to make me search the bottom of my box of videos. No worries, I believe you.

I still think the shows were short-sighted... they missed the boat on LIMs, hypers, flyers, the wood revival.

Of course, I still remember when coasters only merited a two or three-minute segment on tabloid shows or TV newsmagazines. It seems only recently that producers have felt they could do an entire hour-long show strictly about coasters.

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Tuesday, March 2, 2004 1:34 AM
The funny thing about SIM development is that that it has seen a trend towards real effects to further development instead of the emerision stuff expected in those shows.

Take for instance Spiderman (which I believe no one will contridict me in saying is one of if not the best simulator to date), what makes it so great is that the car actually moves on a track, there are physical effects (fire, water, wind etc) as well as actual set pieces. All those shows perdicted you putting on VR goggles and having slight physical effects give you sensations when in fact the opposite has occued simulators are becoming more like dark rides not the other way around :).

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Tuesday, March 2, 2004 8:11 AM
I have heard that Race For Atlantis, the amazing 3-D IMAX simulator at Caesars Palace is closing on March 14th. I guess the simulator fad is on its way out. It is a shame though that in a town full of simulator rides, the best of the bunch (in my opinion anyway) chose to close its doors.

ray p.

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Tuesday, March 2, 2004 1:00 PM
I agree that simulators in their purest form dying out...and its sad to see Race for Atlantis closing.

BUT...they are giving way to great new innovation such as Borg 4D at Star Trek the Experience...its a combination of simulation and live effects.

For me it seems that the run of the mill simulators have had their day due to the lack of innovation...i mean how many times can you move back and forth and side to side. People want new, more realistic movement...thats what attractions such as Spiderman and Indiana Jones Adventure provide.

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Tuesday, March 2, 2004 1:50 PM
Race For Atlantis was definitely one of the better done sims, and the great theming/storyline only added to the fantastic experience.

My only hope is Cesears is planning on replacing it with something even more spectacular (indoor coaster?!?!), and not more stores.

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Tuesday, March 2, 2004 4:30 PM
Its interesting to note that The Forum Shops is the most profitable mall in Nevada. Its expansion is going to almost double it in size...

As for replacing Race for Atlantis, my friend that works in the mall says that they aren't sure whats going in there. The actual show building sits way back from the entrance so there is a lot of room to work with, especially the queue area...it would be cool if they used that space to make another nightclub, although I doubt that.

Does anyone remember those "cheap" simulators they used to have in shopping malls...the ones that look like the little ones in RCT? I remember riding one of those at the state fair one year, what happened to them?

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Tuesday, March 2, 2004 4:55 PM
There is one at my local science museum. I got to "ride" the SFNE Cyclone a few years ago. It was very generic, but kind of fun.
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Tuesday, March 2, 2004 5:08 PM
Touchdown sez:

"Take for instance Spiderman (which I believe no one will contridict me in saying is one of if not the best simulator to date)..."

Spiderman was fun but it wasn't all that and a bag of chips.' Granted, I'm not a fan of SIMs but I'll take Star Tours over anything else I've ridden.

mOOSH

*** Edited 3/2/2004 11:05:28 PM UTC by Mamoosh***

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Tuesday, March 2, 2004 6:02 PM
I stand corrected, Moosh youre the first person I have ever heard say that Spidy wasnt the best sim ever, Star Wars huh?
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Tuesday, March 2, 2004 6:05 PM
LOL Touchdown. I meant Star Tours ;) And I'm not knocking Spidey. It's a fun ride and I can understand why a person would claim it as the best. I'm just not one of them.

mOOSH

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Tuesday, March 2, 2004 7:07 PM

Spiderman was fun but it wasn't all that and a bag of chips.' Granted, I'm not a fan of SIMs but I'll take Star Tours over anything else I've ridden.


Even over BTTF:TR and Soarin'? Star Tours was cool when it first opened, but Univeral and even Disney themselves have topped it long ago IMO.

Soarin' is hands down the best sim I've done, mainly because they've finally found a way to eliminate those claustraphobic cabins. The innovative ride system, which allows you to be completely engulfed in the giant domed Imax screen, is absolutely amazing in itself.

If anything, this may be the sims of the future, much more effective and immersive than bouncing around a cabin looking at a small screen.

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Tuesday, March 2, 2004 7:09 PM

haiderodes said:

Does anyone remember those "cheap" simulators they used to have in shopping malls...the ones that look like the little ones in RCT? I remember riding one of those at the state fair one year, what happened to them?


I believe those simulators were called "SR2". They held about 12 people and usually showed a roller coaster film of some sort. About 10 years ago, one was touring the Cleveland shopping malls and I managed to get a few free rides for being a mall employee. I "rode" The Beast and another multi-coaster program, but the best one was a dirtbike film. There was a fan inside that blew air at the appropriate times and the simulator was actually pretty well synchronized with the film (if I recall correctly).

And at Caesar's, I'm sure they'll have to reprogram the Atlantis fountain show. After all, it was just a big advertisement for Race For Atlantis! ;)

ray p. (who is a sucker for animated fountains!)

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Tuesday, March 2, 2004 7:16 PM
Jomo - yer right...I completely forgot about Soaring Over California. My bad! Definitely blows Spidey away.

I don't care for BTTF because the sight of the other cars in the theatre ruins the experience for me. Plus, without a front windshield shouldn't we be able to feel the heat of the lava, the cold of the ice, and the dino's bad breath?

mOOSH

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Tuesday, March 2, 2004 7:35 PM
Yeah, I finally rode in the front row of BTTF the last time, and it does totally destroy the effect when you can see all the other cars bouncing next to you. Was really disappointed, had no idea you shared the screen with all the other cabins, I assumed each car had it's own screen. Will definitely make sure to never ride in the front row again.
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Wednesday, March 3, 2004 1:30 AM

ProgRay said:

And at Caesar's, I'm sure they'll have to reprogram the Atlantis fountain show. After all, it was just a big advertisement for Race For Atlantis! ;)

ray p. (who is a sucker for animated fountains!)


you took the words right outta my mouth! even still that show is still amazingly popular after all these years...something about fire and water that gets people all excited...

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Friday, March 5, 2004 6:14 AM
Not sure if anyone cares, but apparently the new Newseum opening in WDC in 2006 will have an entire floor for Interactive Play. Seems like this could be both educational and fun, great for the family
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Friday, March 5, 2004 6:15 AM
What happened to sim_man?
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