Red train missing from SROS

Saturday, September 21, 2002 1:13 PM

I just got back from SFNE and was very dismayed to find that the red train has again been removed from the track. I called to ask where it was and why it had been removed, and they told me it needed maintenance. Nice and specific. Anyway, I really thought the park was getting back on track, but this recent turn of events really discourages me.

Secondly, Batman: Dark Knight was running two trains and was walk-on all day, and yet they were assigning seats! Why? I can't believe that the park has gone from being very well-run in the spring to an operations nightmare now.

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Erik Johnson
Theme Park New England
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Saturday, September 21, 2002 1:21 PM

I read a recent trip report that said it was only running the blue train. Why would it need maintenence? I'm glad that I got some rides on the red train and I'm glad the season is over.

They assign seats on B:TDK because of the 4 in a row seats. All they are trying to do is put the capacity up.

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Saturday, September 21, 2002 1:23 PM
I'd rather have them run one train and have choice of seats. The coaster was so uncrowded today that even with one train, it would have been a maximum of a one-cycle wait. They were stacking trains all day.

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Erik Johnson
Theme Park New England
Save Whalom Park!

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Saturday, September 21, 2002 1:58 PM

I was just about to start a new topic on this. I just got back from SFNE and was just wondering the same.
Only the blue train was running, while the red train was no where to be found. (removed from the transfer tracks) We asked a few ride ups, and all we got for an answer was

"Its broke, probably wont be back running till next season."

So, does anyone know what happened to it?

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John
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Saturday, September 21, 2002 2:03 PM
When I went to SFDL the blue train was no where to be found. I waited an hour but it was well worth it. Maybe they are doing something different but only trying it with one train.
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Saturday, September 21, 2002 4:31 PM

Man I hope to see both the red & blue trains running on SFA's S:ROS when I get out there in a couple of weeks.

As for assigned seating on B:TDK,SFNE dude has the right answer,sometimes on Batwing the ride ops do the same thing,they'll start assigning seats,actually in some ways assigning seats is good because it can make the line move a bit faster.

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Saturday, September 21, 2002 4:37 PM
When I went to SFA last season they assigned my seat which was ok because it was the back.
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Saturday, September 21, 2002 6:55 PM
That's really strange. I've never known SFA to assign seats on any of it's coasters, though they have limited the number of people in the Batwing station which can limit seat choice.
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Saturday, September 21, 2002 7:45 PM
While assigning seats makes things move a lot faster when there's a line, it makes absoloutly no sense at all if the ride's literally a walk-on.
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Saturday, September 21, 2002 8:00 PM

First of all, don't expect parks to be specific when you ask them questions about ride operations. I'm really surprised they even told you it was due to maintenance. It's a way they cover themselves from litigation. (cover yo'... you know).

Because the end of the season is near, they may have pulled it off to begin overhauling it for next season. They take off allt he fiberglass, inspect each part, replace a lot of joints and pins, and probably magnafluz each carbody to insure no cracks/fractures have developed.

Of course that is only my best educated guess. Your results may vary.

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the member formerly known as MisterX

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Saturday, September 21, 2002 8:18 PM

I went to SFNE at the eend of August and both the superman trains were running.I think the trip was a waste bcz all the coasters had at least an hour wait. gr...i waited an hour and a half 2 go on batman and i was definatly not worth it.

Boulder Dash and Steel Force rock!!!!

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Saturday, September 21, 2002 10:41 PM

Wasn't the red train the new one that was put on later this year? I would think that train should have the least problems.

I noticed red train was running with nylon wheels on a warm day in August and blue wasn't. There could be a performance issue and with it. Still I was surprised how fast both trains ran for the morning test runs.

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Sunday, September 22, 2002 4:50 AM

It could also be the fact that the red train was making a very suspicious and loud clang noise on the entrance hill to the first helix on the red train and not the blue.

Joe: I thought the performance was good with the nylon, so much fast and smoother than blue. Oh well, next time I get there I'll take a peak.

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Sunday, September 22, 2002 4:54 AM

If the red train is in fact new that would make it the first priority for maintenance. An older train has been through maintenance before to catch any latent manufacturing defects. On a new train you don't know what may be wrong until you have inspected it once after it's been in service. In my business pretty much everything is inspected after one year in service, Then based on how things look we can extend the intervals between inspections, often to 5 years or more. Coasters have to be inspected and overhauled every year due to the difficult to measure fatigue issues involved.

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Sunday, September 22, 2002 5:36 AM
Yes, the red train was making a clanking sound on the hill to go into the first helix. It was very noticeable, and only the red train made it.

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I lost my hat on Poison Ivy. How pathetic.

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Sunday, September 22, 2002 8:23 AM

That clanking sound that you heard was from the back panel of the last train. it was kinda loose but still held on by the bottom two bolts. when you go into the first helix you could hear it clang against the top part. (there was also another time on the ride where you could hear it) but they had fixed that the by the last time i was there...last week of august i believe it was.

the red train was also sparking alittle coming into the brake run, but i wouldnt consider that a problem because ive seen so many coasters do it.

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John
Albany Entertainment:
http://home.nycap.rr.com/albanyent

*** This post was edited by CalvinJ23 on 9/22/2002. ***

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Sunday, September 22, 2002 11:58 AM
There must have been some major issues to make them decide to remove it completely from service, most likely for the remainder of the season. Superman is the park's premier coaster, and to double wait times for two months is a fairly bold move. I guess we have to trust that there was a major problem, but it's still frustration nonetheless.

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Erik Johnson
Theme Park New England
Save Whalom Park!

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Sunday, September 22, 2002 12:05 PM
yes that is very strange that SFA assign seats because i have never known them to do that. The only park that i have ever been assign a seat was at IOA.

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Sunday, September 22, 2002 1:10 PM
I'm really dissappointed because I was looking really forward to riding Superman with near walk on or walk on lines all throughout Sept, Oct, and Nov. this year. Guess that won't happen now :(.

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Sunday, September 22, 2002 1:16 PM

SFNE Freak - it shouldnt be all that bad once we get out of september. even last year when there was only one train in october i never waited more then 25 mins. It shouldnt be all that bad.

also friday nights at the park are great! theres never alot of people there for the 5 hours the parks open.

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John
Albany Entertainment:
http://home.nycap.rr.com/albanyent

*** This post was edited by CalvinJ23 on 9/22/2002. ***

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