Friday, August 16, 2002 4:58 AM
WOW I just rode that two days ago. Kinda of strange though that two incidents happened at the same place so close together, especially when I know the State Fair has a pretty strict ride inspection policy. I hope they get to the bottom of this.
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Friday, August 16, 2002 5:54 AM
There is a longer article here-----------------I started out with nothing and still have most of it left.
Friday, August 16, 2002 6:36 AM
The two men injured are in really good shape. One of them was released last night, and I don't think the other stayed in the hospital.
One things for sure, they will never hop on a canival ride again.
Friday, August 16, 2002 6:42 AM
No, if this happended to me, I would still get on a carny ride....things like these happen...remember, toothpicks, toothpicks, the evil toothpicks are more dangerous, than amusement rides:)
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Friday, August 16, 2002 6:53 AM
The difference with toothpicks is that you get stuck andbleed a little. With a ride you can get splattered.
Friday, August 16, 2002 7:05 AM
Looks like they need to Re-Weld the seat back on. A thousand apologies for the terrible pun. :)
Friday, August 16, 2002 7:37 AM
No. I bet it's just a bad design. I think the engineers involved need to go back and Re-think the plans. :)
Friday, August 16, 2002 8:31 AM
"Yeah, but when the Pirates of the Caribbean breaks down the Pirates don't eat the tourists." They flew fifteen feet before hitting a wall? Yikes!
Friday, August 16, 2002 8:41 AM
But people don't hold sandwiches together with carny rides, LOL. As someone who works in food service, I've heard nightmarish tales of people choking & doing damage inside because of splinters off of decorative toothpicks & the such.
Straws are dangerous, too;).
Friday, August 16, 2002 9:18 AM
I've seen the ride in question (ridden it, in fact) and I can tell you, even though it is a couple of years old, it looks immaculate. Wood takes good care of it and takes great pride in it. My understanding is that the manufacturer (since when is Tivoli UK an Italian company??) had no NDT requirements for the point of failure. The ride had no noticeable problems at the start of the day, but still sent a couple of seats flying through the air with the greatest of ease.
My question is, are they also taking a good close look at all of the Afterburner and Spin-Out rides that use the same seat and presumably a similar seat mount.......
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Friday, August 16, 2002 1:08 PM
Here's a good pic of the ride, in case anyone was wondering what it is:
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Friday, August 16, 2002 1:25 PM
Dave, I would hope so! Not the best season for the fair considering the ride that bit the dust (pun intended) during tranport, and the bungee cables snapping (which isn't as horrific, but gives the press fuel for the fire nonetheless). Good thing I went the first weekend instead of the normal 3rd. I love(d) this ride!
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Friday, August 16, 2002 6:45 PM
omg! I just rode this last Tuesday, at the fair. Well I'm sure not going back this year!!
Friday, August 16, 2002 7:27 PM
they are also closing down all remix rides, the one here at the erie county fair in hamburg ny is now closed (i rode it of course!!) and since when is tivoli the manufacturer of the remix and not kmg?
Friday, August 16, 2002 8:39 PM
Wow, I didn't know this was the same company that designed spin out.
Friday, August 16, 2002 11:00 PM
Acuualy it is a KMG ride its just contracted out to Tivoli to manufacture the north american product line. MUCH LIKE Am-Tech sells the product here in north america (on an agent basis)
and to behonest because rides go up and come down on a regular basis on a traveling carnival you have a better shot haven an accident at an amusement park then a carnival that moves. and because of the fact that rides go up and down and be put together and taken apart you can see any VISABLE problems much better then a ride that never gets taken apart in a park at all. PLUS reglated state/fedral (depending opon were you live, every state is differnt) inspections are done on a set up basis everytime a ride goes together and WILL NOT OPEN to the public untill after it has been permitted.
in this case were it being an inside box weld that broke loose you wouldent see it or notice it at all.
Saturday, August 17, 2002 6:37 PM
oh i c, some articles i read are saying tivoli is the actual manufacturer of the re-mix, yeah i know carnival rides are safer due to the taking apart of the rides, i think carnival rides have much more strict regulation on them in most states than do fixed park rides as well, and besides, its cheaper (for here anyways) to go to the fair/carnival than it is to go to six flags!
Sunday, August 18, 2002 5:36 PM
Hmmm... being a welder, I can attest to the fact that an inside box weld ( if not welded with the piece being welded hot enough will break over a period of time and weight as opposed to technique used to make the weld). I have seen working in the industrial fan industry 72" fan wheels shatter at 40 rpms that had poor tecnique in the way the weld was welded. Bottom line is why wasn't a fillet weld with 2 other fillet welds used in conjunction with each other? Also, during the inspection process, why weren't these important welds checked? Surely, the manufacturer knew these welds could go thru stress fractures very easily.
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