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VOSM=Victim Of Scream Machine (in the olden days)
I wonder if they will get it right this time: games,flats,shows,pay per experiencerides and so forth
also expand some of the curent scenery options like the dinos and the wall and roof options.
RCT 2 was a big dissapointment with the incomplete 6 flags parks useless stalls a restrictive senario editor and the announcement of so many more coasters only to find out many of them were rides we already had just separated by their type of train.
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JOHN
RCT INSOMNIACS
KIMBERLY LAKE INC.
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My mind works in strange ways. Yeah with a chain driven lift hill and gravity.
I'd really like to see a double or triple wheel and a delirium in the new pack.
*** This post was edited by SFGAMNUT9302 on 12/15/2002. ***
I would love vertical track on the giga coaster, along with a powered launch mode and inversions to make coasters like Monte Makaya. Holding break on the Impulse, games stalls, banked drops on the Corkscrew coaster (why did they leave this out???), of course, tons of new flats (skycoasters, Thrill Shots, Huss frisbies, rotating swings, wave swinger, etc.). The *official* scenery maker is an absolute must. An improved 4D coaster with easier to understand rotation settings (picture diagram in the build box), first generation Intamin freefalls, giant drops (Drop Zone at PGA), more intertainers, medium-sized loops on the steel twister coasters, fixed glitches in the peep's AI, bring back the mountain builder in the regular game paly (duah), and if it's at all possible, eliminate the maximum scenery/rides selection - the most dissapointing aspect of the game to me is to not be able to have everything that I want in a park. Chris, if you're listening, make the game for US - not for you.
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Jingle Bells. Jingle Bells, Jingle all the way! Oh what fun it'll be to ride Hulk at IOA!
Enough with the expansion "let's boost our profit at the expense of consumers" packs! Include it all in one game! They obviously planned this expansion pack while they were creating RCT2. When CF came out I was excited, when LL came out I was happy yet suspicious, RCT2 I was really suspicious, now I'm starting to get pissed.
RCT, then CF, then LL, then RCT2, and soon RCT2.1. Average about $20 per game, and now this game that everyone considered a "great value" now costs $100. All this stuff that's just now being released should have been released in the first release. Sure, there are new scenarios and some new rides that have been developed after the original RCT, but stuff like banked turns on hills? Dive loops? Large loops? Covered stations? Etc.? Come on. This is getting bad. What's worse is I'll probably be a big enough sucker tempted to buy it.
Danimales said:
RCT, then CF, then LL, then RCT2, and soon RCT2.1. Average about $20 per game, and now this game that everyone considered a "great value" now costs $100.
Not exactly, you don't HAVE to buy the earlier versions. You can just have bought RCT2 and be playing just fine - this is different from The Sims where you HAVE to buy each installment to get full functionality. You could have bypassed Corkscrew Follies too, if you wanted and were patient enough.
For those of you did that pay for each glob of RCT that was released, you paid for the privilege of being about to play it for that six months or year. You have to factor in the amount of time in your life that $20 provided you entertainment.
People complain that RCT2 is like an expansion pack, but it's not one. $30 and that's the whole game, you don't need any of the three packages that came before it. Though most of us already had them, they decided not to force everyone to go buy RCT1 just to play RCT2.
I would agree that their strategy of maximizing returns by releasing expansion packs was probably inspired by the success of The Sims, but at least they are being a LITTLE less mercenary about it. You also have to take into account that almost all the coding for RCT is done by one guy and there's only so much he can do in a period of time. If we were to wait until everything was finished and perfect we would still be waiting for the game, at some point you've got to cut it off and release to the public what you've got and save what's unfinished for a future expansion.
The nerve of these game publishers! How dare they make a profit at our expense. They have no right to make money. In fact, they should give away their games for free because I deserve it. Now if you'd only complain so loudly about the pirates who steal their games from the publishers. Some people are just cheap. No one is forcing you to buy the expansion. Personally, I never bought Loopy Landscapes, I didn't think it was worth what they asked for it. You didn't hear me whine and moan about it though. I let my actions, and not my whining send my message for me. It does no goo to whine and complain about how expansions are rip-offs and then go and buy them.
Expansions packs serve two purposes:
1) They bring in additional revenue by lengthening interest in the original product.
2) they bring in additional revenue through the purchase of the expansion pack.
Oh bull. How many people knew years ago that there would be an RCT2? I wasn't one of them. At the time, RCT was arguably the best thing available. No news of future packs with extra rides. Sure, you could buy LL and not CF, but who knew it would happen like that? I guess I'm out of the loop (no pun intended). I can see an expansion pack. Or a part 2--due to the response of players and what they would like to see added. But this will be the FIFTH release of this game, in a few short years.
And by the way, you couldn't run CF/LL without the original. And, the majority of the market RCT2 targets are those who owned the previous versions. I agree this isn't as bad as the Sims. I also agree it's a great game which I get lots of entertainment from, and I don't mind giving money to those who created it-- that's how they make a living (I'm jealous!). But I see a cycle forming here. And I don't like it.
To me this is still a great game, my all-time favorite, hands down. But best value for a computer game? Not so sure anymore. I would just like to see all the features packaged into one, and realease at once, with one price. If it's 50 bucks, fine. Send me one.
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My K'Nex Coasters
Coming to Wyandot Lake in 2003: Hi-Striker's Revenge
Also remember that when Loopy Landscapes came out, those of us who had purhcased Corkscrew Follies (Added Attractions) have/had the option of returning their Corkscrew Follies CD along with the proof-of-purhcase from Loopy Landscapes for a rebate that allegedly reimbursed us for the cost of putting Corkscrew Follies on the Loopy Landscapes disc.
They didn't have to do that.
(Actally I bet the rebate offer was spawned by them not wanting to releae both LL and CF/LL combo packs as was originally rumored, and needed additionsl store shelf space as well as added customer confusion)
Of course now if somebody just getting started they can purhcase just RCT2 for about $30 ($25 on sale at a lot of placed), and if they want the old RCT there is the reasonably priced Gold Edition that comes with all the RCT expansion packs.
I agree the quantity of expansion paks for The Sims is getting out of hand.
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David Bowers
Mayor, Coasterville
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