Raptor question

Wednesday, August 10, 2011 11:12 AM

Does Raptor have a large rider seat?

I am taking some friends to Cedar Point next month and one of them is a bit larger then I am. I require help to buckle the belts on TTD & MF but always fit. I don't think she will so I want to focus our trip on other things. We will also stay away from Wicked Twister and Mantis. If Raptor does has the large rider seat that I have seen on several B&M inverts she should be fine, if not I don't know if we will even try.

She does fit on Diamondback at KI with a little help to get the last click.

Thanks

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Wednesday, August 10, 2011 12:11 PM

To my knowledge, it does not.

Also some people don't know, but Mine Ride is easier to get into if you are larger in the third row of each train, due to the lapbars come down far in the first seat, little less in the second, and not very far in the third. I do think Raptor overall though does the best at taking care of more guest sizes than most any other ride. I'm not sure of any of Cedar Point's rides have seat belts for larger guest compared to most parks that do, or other B&Ms.

Cedar Point IMO is the WORST park EVER for people who are a little heavier...and I'm not even talking fat. Most my friends can ride everything at Kennywood, BGW, etc. Cedar Point...no way.

-RollerCoasterGod

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Wednesday, August 10, 2011 12:57 PM

I agree, when ever we have a trip planned I always feel a little apprehensive. The only WOS I have ever had to do at CP was on Wicked Twister. I don't even try anymore on that one.

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Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:23 PM

This topic has been discussed at length on this site and at others about seatbelt lengths, otsr's among other things that CP does. I too have had to do the WOS at CP on MF and WT. MF was able to ride for years untill one year I wasn't even close eventhough I weighed the same as previous years. MF I have no problem again as I have dropped twenty pounds. WT I have never been able to ride eventhough I have ridden most other Impulse coasters in the US, but with WT I have never been close to getting the belt to latch. My question then as now is why the difference between parks when the same manufacturer is involved?

Last edited by Corkscrew Follies, Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:24 PM
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Friday, August 12, 2011 3:56 AM

I always assumed it was either general inconsistency (aka human error) or whoever installs the belts just not caring enough to double check every one.

That's not to excuse them though. I certainly think there should be more of an effort to ensure consistency. I've had a few encounters at a few parks where I didn't or almost didn't fit in one seat, but had a ride op direct me to another seat with a longer belt (no, not a B&M big boy seat, just a regular seat). If the ride ops know which belts are inconsistent, why is that not getting passed along in some manner so it can be taken care of?

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Friday, August 12, 2011 7:58 AM

It may be dictated by cost. Seat belts that will handle people up to X proportions cost say $50 a pop, but belts that handle people up to XX proportions cost $75 a pop. So to keep costs down, they just outfit only a few rows with the XX belts..

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Friday, August 12, 2011 9:15 AM

I just don't think changing a few seat belts is very high on the priority list. Especially if the ones that are on the seats already work properly.

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Friday, August 12, 2011 9:17 AM

My 5-year-old son had to do the walk of shame on Raptor too because he is only 48" tall and they would not let him ride. I wish Cedar Point would relax their policy to accomodate my son since he really wanted to ride. Maybe they could have B&M design a row for people under 54 inches. My son felt discriminated and our day was ruined.

I told my son that maybe if he really eats a lot over the winter he will grow 6 inches and be able to ride next summer.

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Friday, August 12, 2011 10:05 AM

Hoverboards don't work on water said:
My 5-year-old son had to do the walk of shame on Raptor too because he is only 48" tall and they would not let him ride. I wish Cedar Point would relax their policy to accomodate my son since he really wanted to ride. Maybe they could have B&M design a row for people under 54 inches. My son felt discriminated and our day was ruined.

I told my son that maybe if he really eats a lot over the winter he will grow 6 inches and be able to ride next summer.

I can't tell if you're trolling or not.

[Edit: consensus is that your post whooshed over my head. Carry on.]

Last edited by BBSpeed26, Friday, August 12, 2011 10:44 AM
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Friday, August 12, 2011 10:05 AM

Yeah, he was totally serious.

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Friday, August 12, 2011 10:37 AM

Yeah, I took the post as humorous. Username is pretty awesome, too.

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Friday, August 12, 2011 11:02 AM

Hoverboards don't work on water said:


I told my son that maybe if he really eats a lot over the winter he will grow 6 inches and be able to ride next summer.

I don't think that was a fair thing to tell your son - he may grow 6" but not in the direction you want him to. Huskies from Sears are never cool to have to wear!

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Friday, August 12, 2011 11:05 AM

Hoverboards don't work on water said:
My 5-year-old son had to do the walk of shame on Raptor too because he is only 48" tall and they would not let him ride. I wish Cedar Point would relax their policy to accomodate my son since I was looking forward to suing them once he got ejected from the ride. Maybe they could have B&M design a row for people under 54 inches. My son felt embarassed at me yelling at the ride operator for not allowing him on and our day was ruined.

I told my son that maybe we can find another lawyer who will help us sue the park for following their rules.

Ahh.. the joys of creative editing..

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Friday, August 12, 2011 11:31 AM

...you mean like removing posts?

I should quote stuff from now on.

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Friday, August 12, 2011 11:47 AM

Who removed a post? Did I miss something?

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Saturday, August 13, 2011 1:15 AM

I learned a new rule at Cedar Point today!!!

...and I had to do the WOS for the FIRST TIME!!! :C(

The agony of being humiliated in front of all those 5 year olds!

I went to get on to Jr. Gemini. Evidently the rule is that both your knees have to be on your own side or you can not ride?

I'm 6'2 and I sometimes have to cross my legs or just put one knee off to the side.

NO WAY a loud to do that on Jr. Gemini. and I had to get off and let my daughter ride by herself :C(

Odd though...Wildcat and Mine Ride let me sit that way?

-RollerCoasterGod

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Saturday, August 13, 2011 2:10 AM

Not sure about Wildcat, but the rule for CCMR has always been that both legs must be positioned on side of the cross bar. If the ops let you get away with it, they weren't supposed to.

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Saturday, August 13, 2011 1:58 PM

That has not always been the rule on Mine Ride. Wildcat it doesn't matter, there is no center divider of any description. As to the safety belts on Raptor...those assemblies are all the same when they are installed, but the belts stretch, the foam on the shoulder bar compresses, an in general the system demonstrates why automotive-style seat belts are a poor materials choice for an amusement ride.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Saturday, August 13, 2011 3:48 PM

Dave, my question was about the seats that accommodate larger riders. They have 2 belts and are quite a bit more forgiving.

I know that Patriot and Great Bear have them. The floorless Superman at SFFT also has them.

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Saturday, August 13, 2011 4:17 PM

If it hasn't always been the rule for CCMR, it certainly has been the case for at least the last 8-10 years.

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