Raptor Love + Question

Tuesday, May 18, 2004 9:38 PM
After visiting CP for my first time this season, I wanted to give some love to "The BOOG" on the Midway, but also to ask a question.

I noticed the screaming and whining of Raptor from the middle of the park and wondered why it sounds like a couple of cats in the alley bumpin' uglies?? Sheesh, Raptor does not have that signature B&M sound of old, but more of a loud scream. Did they install new wheels?

Amorous Feelings: I CANNOT get enough of this ride. The zero G roll and the 2nd half of the Cobra in the back-right seat is insane. When the line is 5-10 minutes (rare), I marathon my baby for hours. This is the gift of the park, that keeps on giving. After 11 seasons, I still believe it's the best ride in the park. Yeah, yeah MF, Dragster and Magnum are speed demons, but BOOG delivers the elements unlike any other ride. (Side note: My father, who hasn't been to the park since 1988, sat, marveled and shook his head at this contraption of insanity. He said, "It's by far the most incredible feat of engineering I've seen")

Tuesday, May 18, 2004 10:29 PM
That came up on PointBuzz as well. Sounds to me like Batman at SFGAdv back in 2001, I think it was.
Tuesday, May 18, 2004 10:52 PM
I also noticed it was louder than Mantis, which is quite a feat. As to why, perhaps harder wheels, but that's just pure speculation.
Tuesday, May 18, 2004 11:48 PM
Maybe painting the rails, the high humidity or bird droppings a combination of all three are the cause. *** Edited 5/19/2004 3:49:10 AM UTC by Touchdown***
Tuesday, May 18, 2004 11:49 PM
I have also noticed the ride is much louder this year than in the past. If you listen closely, you can hear it back by Snake River Falls (and no, that wasn't Mantis)

Count me in as a Raptor fan. It's the coaster that introduced me to B&M and the inverted craze. I haven't had a bad ride on it yet. Raptor is responsible for some of the great friends I have now, as crazy as that sounds.


Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:15 AM
I agree with ya, Sean. Raptor has always been one of my faves.

It has my devoted love as well. :-)


Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:12 AM
Raptor was my first B&M, too. Jesus, I first rode the thing 8 years ago. Astonishing, it seems just like yesterday.

The thing that makes Raptor such a winner is that

1. There's just so much STUFF they packed into the layout. There may be a couple inverts that I like more, now, but none of them have as much stuff packed into the ride as Raptor. And...

2. Even with all that stuff packed in, all the elements are really high quality. It still has the best first drop of any looping B&M I've been on, the helix is one of the most powerful things B&M has ever done....hell, even the drop out of the MCBR is fantastic.

Yay Raptor. :)

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:51 AM
I agree, Raptor's the best ride in the park.

The first drop is my favorite drop ever. I love how it flings you sideways before dropping. But my favorite part is the "dip-n-flip" and helix at the end. In case you've never ridden it, there's a little airtime dip, followed by a surprising flat spin. It's great. And the helix just keeps piling on the G-forces.

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:54 AM
I thought Gator had your devoted love...you're not two-timing him, are you? ;)
Wednesday, May 19, 2004 11:26 AM
Some of the noise may be attributed to wheels. Nylon wheels are harder and faster, although also louder. Polyeurothane (and yes, I know I don't quite have the spelling right)are softer and slower but also quieter. At least I'm almost certain...every once in a while I mix them up.

Anyways, since its the beginning of the season (slow trains), they probably put on more of the nylon wheels on to compensate. Parks will use combinations of these two types of wheels to control train speeds.

Wednesday, May 19, 2004 11:35 AM
Count me in as a Raptor fan as well, the helix at the end is one of the best finales out there.
Wednesday, May 19, 2004 11:55 PM
The loud noise existed from Wednesday, May 12 until sometime over the last weekend. Not only was it loud, but it was incredibly rough during the cobra roll and corkscrews. I had one of the worst rides ever on Raptor on Wednesday after having great rides on Tuesday, so I spoke with a ride op about it. He said maintenance had noted it and said it was the supports readjusting themselves on the footers ever so slightly after the winter. It doesn't make sense to me, but it was happening to all three trains and it was not happening on Monday, May 17. I'll be interested in seeing how it is in August.
Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:13 AM
I'll toss in my two cents and go with everyone else that it could possibly be due to new wheels.

Rides actually run rougher with new wheels until they have worn a groove into themselves. That might not make too much sense, but the ride will run smoother after a few weeks with new wheels than immediately after installation while they get used to making the run over and over.

Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:40 AM
That does make sense, Coasterguy, if the wheels are made of nylon.
Friday, May 21, 2004 12:43 AM
Raptor has been since day one and more than likely will always will be my favourite steel.

Yes, she is incredibly loud right now, almost back to 94 when you could here her across the lake with a good steady breeze from the north.

Rough, I thought she was quite smooth compared to how she was mid season last year, although I ride only in the back or the front.

Montu - came bloody close but its missing something.

Nemisis - wasnt able to make it to Alton when I was in England unfortunetly

PS. back seat of Mean Streak this past Sunday was Great, trim was late on hill, and pulled well all the way until the damn midcourse break run, wish she could coast threw this like Raptor

Friday, May 21, 2004 12:49 AM
I didn't notice the noise when I went on the 10th, I will listen for it on Tuesday when I go.

I also agree it still the best ride in the park, and I like it the most of any B&M inverter I have ridden, better than any B&M I have ridden period.

Friday, May 21, 2004 8:39 AM

Woody said:
I wanted to give some love to "The BOOG" on the Midway...

I've never heard Raptor referred to as "The BOOG." What does that mean?

Friday, May 21, 2004 9:18 AM
I'm not sure as I have never heard it referred to as that either- however I would guess it refers to booger. It is big and green.

:) ?

Friday, May 21, 2004 12:48 PM
Our little group of riders at CP on Memorial Weekend started calling it BOOGER while strolling down the Midway after a few pops. This was in 1998 and the name has stuck. The "pops" have stuck, too. It is incredible how elaborate and creative our group gets on Memorial Weekend with food and drink mixtures when we tailgate in the Magnum parking lot at 10am. It's like a Michigan Football game, but without the other 100,000 people. Go BLUE!

Friday, May 21, 2004 2:25 PM
Raptor opened this year with polyurethane wheels, which were very loud. The wheels have been replaced with ribbed Nylon wheels, which are much quieter.



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